586 - 1 Part
THE TWO WITNESSES

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We are going to be preaching out of Revelation chapter 11 today, and I will read chapter 11 in the King James translation and then we will begin our exhortation. Revelation chapter 11, "And there was given me a reed like unto a rod, an angel stood saying, Rise and measure the temple of God, and the altar and them that worship therein, but the court which is without the temple, leave out, and measure it not for it is given unto the Gentiles. And the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months, and I will give power unto my two witnesses and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and three score days clothed in sackcloth. These are the two olive trees and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth, and if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth and devoureth their enemies. And if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed. These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy, and have power over waters to turn them to blood and to smite the earth with all plagues as often as they will. And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them and kill them.

 

And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified. And they are the people and kindred and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and a half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves. And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them and make merry and shall send gifts one to another because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth. And after three days and a half, the spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet, and great fear fell upon them which saw them, and they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud, and their enemies beheld them. And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand, and the remnant were seized with fear and gave glory to the God of heaven. The second woe is past and behold the third woe cometh quickly."

 

That is as far as we are going, actually through verse 13. Praise the Lord, okay, I have print out here of the Interlinear Text and I will be working both from the King James translation and the Interlinear Text, because the subtleties that we find in the Interlinear Text are very important especially when there is no subject, and we have to determine what the subject is. Praise the Lord. Let me tell you this, this is probably the third message I am doing on the two witnesses. We have in Living Epistles Ministries, which I, the messages of which amount to I think five hundred and thirty if I am not mistaken, I stopped preaching the Doctrine of Christ and starting preaching Kabbalah, starting with messages #531, and I have a message, a series called "The Two Witnesses", and also "The Two Witnesses Revisited" in Living Epistles, the Lord has given me additional revelation or a deeper revelation concerning the two witnesses, once again this does not make my previous messages wrong, that was the level at which I was able to comprehend the two witnesses at the time that I preached it, and not only is that okay, but also as we mature, we who preach, as we mature, the message becomes more mature, and even though this message may be more accurate, although I am sure that if you investigate, you will find the basic foundations that I will be preaching from in my previous messages also, but you will find that the way I preached it several years ago, it is probably much more palatable to younger Christians then the way I am going to preach it now, so as I preach it on every level that I ascend to, I make the message more appropriate for people on the particular level from which I am preaching it that time.

 

Praise the Lord, I think in my previous messages, I said the two witnesses were Christ and Christ Jesus, and that is not wrong, but I also think it is pretty obvious from the text that the two witnesses are Elijah and Moses. I remind you that Elijah reincarnated in Jesus, he reincarnated in both John the Baptist and Jesus, and John the Baptist rendered up his portion of the Elijah anointing to Jesus, so Jesus then went forth in the whole power and authority of Elijah, and then Jesus also had the teaching anointing and the prophetic anointing of Moses and whatever else, whatever other anointing Moses was gifted with, where this is revealed to us, when we see Jesus transfigured on the Mount of Transfiguration, that Jesus was a walking living manifestation of the spiritual root that appeared to the world as both Elijah and Moses, and I suggest to you that, that was the same spiritual root which is Michael the archangel in two different incarnations, and in two different manifestations of his life and his power as the archangel of God.

 

One thing that we see about prophecy, you know, it is usually so exaggerated, and frequently so extreme that people have trouble relating it to everyday events or everyday experiences, I think it is the gift of the prophet, I do not mean, I do not want to use the word gift because, gift may mean something that is imputed, it is something that is given to you, it is not a part of who you are, so let me change that because we have the gift of prophecy and then we have the prophet, and the gift of prophecy is part, comes with the Holy Spirit and is given to people without repentance, it is a gift, and they can channel so to speak the word of the Lord coming from the Holy Spirit, but the prophet, a true prophet is someone who has a living Christ within them, a living Christ who speaks and manifests and presents his will through that individual, with the individual's understanding, frequently with the individual's understanding.

 

We are told that the prophets of the Old Testament did not understand the things that they prophesied, but the son, you see, we are told in the book of Hebrews, that in the days of old the Lord spoke to His people through the prophets, but today He speaks through His son. When Christ Jesus speaks in the office of the prophet, that office of a prophet in a son has been raised up to a higher level than the prophet of the Old Testament in that, when the son speaks prophecy, he knows and he understands what he is saying. Did I make clear? Okay.

 

What I am trying to tell you is that, the Lord has given me a revelation of the two witnesses, of the two witness experience, how the individual son is going to experience the two witness experience. I believe it will be played out in a couple of places as I went through the alternate translation, I could see it being played out on a, in a more public way, but basically what the Lord has shown me is the experience of the individual son of God in training going through the process of being taken from the imputed or the Pentecostal anointing into the anointing of the son which is called the imparted anointing.

 

We have what we call a Pentecostal church which has received the Spirit of God, an outpouring of the Spirit of God, but there is no provision in that, in that level of Christianity to have your nature changed, a change of nature comes or begins to come when the seed of the life of the glorified Christ is grafted to us, and begins to struggle with our own fallen nature to determine who will rule through the personality, what nature will rule through the personality of the individual, that struggle begins only when Christ is grafted, the Holy Spirit is given to point us in the direction or to prepare us or to cleanse us through healing and deliverance and miracles, for the experience of having the seed of the life of the Son of God grafted to us, because a certain measure of purity, a certain measure of being cleansed from sin is required before the Christ will graft, because if the seed of the Christ grafts to the individual before that individual has reached this particular criteria of cleansing, and I do not know how to describe to you what it is, the powers and principalities within the individual will consume that holy seed and acquire that energy for themselves, rather than the seed maturing into the spiritual child, the holy child that will save that person's life.

 

As I study and as I teach, I see more and more, that pretty much everything that is in the Scripture when the child of God is mature enough to receive it, the bottom line is that everything is the word of God can be translated into a personal experience which is specifically related to the spiritual journey of the individual from the fallen first Adam, to the reconciled first Adam whose sins are forgiven, to the last Adam whose nature is now changed into the image of God. I have heard so many preachers preach that the Church is in the likeness and the image of God, brethren it is not true, when we are in the image of God, we will not die because the image of God is incapable of sinning, so it is not true, we are in the likeness of God because we are formed from His substance, and if Christ is grafted to you, the image of God is within you, but that image of God is at war with the nature that you were born with, and that is pretty much what I just said the second time.

 

The most, most of what you are going to hear me say today will be relating chapter 11 of the book of Revelations to the personal experience, the journey, that spiritual journey that the son takes which from what I can see now is a whole lifetime, it is an experience that takes a whole lifetime, that takes you from being a carnal person to be reconciled to God, to coming to a place in Christ where you stand up full stature, and when you stand up in the full power of God, completely ruling over your carnal mind.

 

All spiritual weakness exists in an individual because their carnal mind is thinking through them and living through them and ruling through them, it is sin that makes us weak, and the carnal mind sins all the time. As our thinking is converted to the thinking of Christ, we, Christ in us becomes stronger, the carnal mind in us becomes weaker, and eventually, the Christ mind stands upon the carnal mind rendering it completely idle and useless at which point, sin has no dominion over us, that means sickness has no dominion over us, death has no dominion over us, and nothing in this world, or this existence that we have here, that we are a part of, can ever hurt us.

 

The journey of the believer, the journey of the disciple of Christ, is a spiritual, mental, and intellectual journey to be converted into the nature of Christ which means to think with the mind of Christ, to act, to do, to believe, to live by whatever Christ would think live or do, and this process that changes our mind changes our whole life. I have been on this journey now for about twenty seven or twenty eight years, I lose track of the time, and I still have, I certainly have not arrived but I am coming into a good place.

 

We are going to do an exhortation now, I am working both from the King James and the Interlinear Text, praise the Lord. Chapter 11, the book of Revelation verse 1, "And there was given me a reed like unto a rod, and the angel stood saying, Rise and measure the temple of God, and the altar and them that worship therein." So we see here that we have several words that need to be interpreted, there was given unto me a reed, the Greek word translated "reed" is Strong's #2563, and it means a plant. We know Israel, and the church is spiritual Israel, is the planting of the Lord. The Scripture is saying, There was given unto me a plant that was like unto a rod, and a rod is a weapon, it can be a rod that you put in your hand and strike someone with, the tongue is also described as a rod in the Scripture. Going with the hypothesis that the rod is the correction of the tongue, what does the reed mean? The reed is the planting, it is the mind of Christ, the planting of God, and there was given unto me the planting of God that was like a weapon, and we know that a rod is the answer to foolishness that the fool needs a rod across his back. We see that there was given unto John, the mind of Christ that was a weapon to deal with the carnal mind.

 

The English words "and the angel stood" do not appear in the Greek, those words were added in by the King James translators. John was saying, "There was given unto me the mind of Christ that was like unto a weapon and saying, Rise and measure the temple." We could say, there was given unto me the mind of Christ that was the weapon which says to the carnal mind, or the weapon which says to the personality, Rise and measure the temple. The Scripture does not say who is talking to who, so the King James translators added in the angel. It was given unto me the mind of Christ, to be weapon, and that would say to the personality, see the mind abides in the personality, this weapon is given to the personality and either, I mean we could say the angel said to John, or we could say that we were given this weapon to say to the personality, stand up and measure the temple of God, and who is the temple of God?

 

The Scripture says, "Ye are the temple of the Holy Ghost", the physical body is the temple of the Holy Ghost, but the carnal mind is the temple of God, because the Christ mind is inserted within the carnal mind. The Christ mind is emerging and growing forth within the carnal mind and will eventually explode it and break it to pieces.

 

Following our present translation, we would say, "And the mind of Christ the planting of the Lord was given to me as a weapon, and I was told or I was told that you could use this weapon or it was said to, or the mind of Christ itself said to, the personality that the mind was dwelling in, rise up, stop lying down with your carnal mind, and measure the temple. The word measure, the concept of measure means to judge, judge the temple of God within you, judge your carnal mind. Until you receive the mind of Christ, there is no way that you could judge your carnal mind, how do you judge your carnal mind? You have to determine that it is giving you false information, that it is giving you wrong thinking, that it is putting stumbling blocks in your way continuously, but it is not until you receive the mind of Christ that now you can compare thought against thought and distinguish which is the righteous wise thought of God and which is the foolish thought of your carnal mind.

 

The mind of Christ was given to John as a weapon and that mind of Christ, which is now, the minute the mind of Christ is grafted to you, He becomes the king of your vessel, so the mind of Christ is grafted and He says to the personality, I want you to rise up from that low place that you are in because you have been ruled by your carnal mind, and I want you to measure, I want you to look at, I want you to judge your carnal mind, and I want you to judge the difference, measure the difference between the carnal mind and Christ, learn to distinguish between good and evil, and see which one is superior. Praise the Lord.

 

Also, measure the altar and them that worship therein. It does not tell us who is speaking here, I have to go back to that and say that, this book is before Jesus was glorified, so I guess I am going to have to go along with the King James translators and say that it is the angel speaking, I do not think I have put this on a message before, but I believe that the angel that John was speaking to was Jesus of Nazareth.

 

You know for a long time I said to Lord, who is this angel that is speaking to John, that said to John, I am just a man, do not worship me. We know that men can be angels, when Christ within us is speaking, we become an angel. Who was this man that was so endued with God that is described as an angel that is instructing John, who could this be? For years I asked this question. About six months ago I believe the Lord gave me the answer, it was Jesus of Nazareth that was speaking to John. Those of you that have studied with this ministry and have in particular studied the message called, "The Woman In The Well", we know that there was a point where Jesus approached John, that there was some carnality coming forth from John, some competition, perhaps some jealousy, and Jesus judged John's carnal mind and gave him the whole message, the whole spiritual message of salvation and that John submitted to Jesus and became his disciple. The Scripture when you study the Sod of the Scripture, it is revealed that John although he may have been executed by Herod, was not decapitated by Herod, it was Herod who lost his spiritual head because Herod yielded to his carnal mind, and I suggest to you that Jesus after hearing the news that John had been executed, went to fetch the body and to raise John from the dead. I have been preaching for a long time that Saint John, is the very same man as John the Baptist after his conversion.

 

Let me just repeat what I just said to you because this is sort of shocking to a lot of people, I believe that John the Baptist may very well have been executed, he was executed, but not decapitated, and that Jesus raised John from the dead, and judged his carnal mind in the message called "The Woman In the Well", you read about that, and that John repented, John the Baptist repented and gave up his position of leadership with his own disciples and became the only man that had a spirit tie with Jesus of Nazareth, he became the John whose head was always on Jesus' breast.

 

Brethren, that does not mean that they walked around physically attached to one another, it means that John and Jesus had a spirit tie, a spirit tie. Of course this is also the same John the Baptist that baptized Jesus of Nazareth and imparted to him the portion of the Spirit of Elijah that was incarnated in John, so the two of them had this very strong soul tie, they were two men that the Spirit of Elijah had incarnated in, the Spirit of Elijah had incarnated in these two men, which made them very close brethren in the earth.

 

Knowing this, the next step of the revelation that the Lord gave me was that this experience called the book of Revelation is the other side of the message called "The Woman In the Well", John chapter 4 is the chapter that we translated in this message, this study reveals Jesus' ministry to John the Baptist which converted John from being a carnal man under the imputed anointing of the Holy Spirit, Elijah incarnated within John as the Holy Spirit, and John was converted when Jesus who was incarnated with the root portion of Elijah, John was converted when Jesus imparted the root to John.

 

We see that Jesus was born with the root, John was born with the branch of the tree, John imputed his measure of the anointing to Jesus at the time of Jesus' water baptism, and then after Jesus' ministry began, after Jesus' temptation, after he overcame his own carnal mind and was standing in full stature, Jesus went to John and imparted the root of the tree to John. Is that not wonderful, what a wonderful thing.

 

The study called "The Woman In The Well" describes the experience of Jesus imparting the seed of Christ, the root of Christ to John from Jesus' perspective. The book of Revelation is the very same experience from John's perspective, this was what John experienced. When Jesus, when the ascended Jesus, the Jesus in full stature who had overcome His sin nature approached John and revealed to John the greatness that was dwelling in him, and began to judge John's sins so that John could be raised up as Jesus was raised up also, the book of Revelation is that very same experience from John's point of view, John chapter 4 is the experience from Jesus' point of view, did I make that clear?

 

In verse one we see, and there was given a seed, a planting, the seed of Christ was given, was a weapon that was given to John and the angel which was Christ Jesus within the man Jesus of Nazareth was saying to John, Come on stand up where I am, you gave me your part of the anointing, now I am giving you the glory that is in me, stand up, he is saying to the personality of John, and measure the temple of God, look at your carnal mind, compare it, compare it to the planting that I have given you, and also compare it to the altar. The altar at this point, I am doing this off of the top of my head brethren, it has not really been prepared, so the seed was the seed of Christ and the altar I would say was the Christ that was dwelling inside of Jesus. Jesus was saying to the carnal mind, Look at your carnal mind, compare it to the seed, to the planting that I have given to you, and compare it to the Christ in me, and also compare it to them that worship therein. This English word "therein", it is a translation of basically some generic Greek word that the translators just put in there to make some sense out of the translation.

 

Jesus is saying to John, here is the seed of Christ, compare it to your carnal mind. He said, stand up, stand up in that seat of Christ, compare it to your carnal mind, the temple of God, compare it to the Christ in me which says, This is what that seed that I just gave you, Look at Christ in me, that seed that I just gave you can mature to the same level that you see in me, compare it to the altar, and compare it or compare yourself to those that worship therein.

 

That is an interesting point of view, it could be taken on two levels. It could be taken that Jesus is saying to John, compare yourself to the other people who are carnal, but I suspect that Jesus is saying to John, compare this glorious seed, look at what it can grow up to be in me, and look at and compare it to the powers and principalities, them that worship within you. You see, we are not told who these people are worshiping, them that worship Satan within you.

 

Brethren, this is a great mystery, if you are mature enough to hear this, there are all kinds of entities that live in us, just as if we are a whole human being and there are many cells within us whose life is dependent upon us, there are many cells that have, and scientists tell us the cells have consciousness, have an existence, but they are dependent on us because they are a part of our body.

 

Brethren, the hard cold truth is, that there are spiritual entities that dwell in us that we are cities for spiritual life, and there are spiritual entities sacrificing to Satan every day in our life, every time we agree with our carnal mind, a part of us which is a spiritual entity has sacrificed Christ to our carnal mind, and every time we resist our carnal mind, Christ in us has sacrificed, or the personality has sacrificed or the personality has sacrificed that aspect of our carnal mind to the Christ within us. There are sacrifices going on within us. There is a temple within us and there is an altar within us, and all of these symbols exist inside of us. There is a process going on to determine who will fully control the personality of the individual. We believe that the Scripture says at the end of all things, Christ will be controlling the whole of humanity which is the first Adam, the fallen first Adam that we might rise up as Jesus said to John, stop lying down with your carnal mind, and be restored to our first estate which is righteousness.

 

I am going to suggest to you, if you are spiritual enough to hear this, that the phrase "them that worship therein" is talking about the spiritual entities that comprise our carnal mind. You see, we talk about the carnal mind because as we become more and more spiritual, we are able to grasp with deeper and deeper concepts. At the beginning of our walk in spirituality, we make the carnal mind a single entity, but just as our physical body is comprised of trillions of cells, the carnal mind is comprised of probably trillion of spiritual entities, and they are all a part of our being, just as these cells are a part of our being.

 

Again I am suggesting to you that Jesus is saying to John, here is the seed of Christ, that is your potential to stand up, stand up above the carnal mind and take a look around yourself, look at your carnal mind, look at your altar, look at Christ Jesus in me, look at Christ in me, and look at your altar because you are a carnal man, that means that your altar is Satan and Leviathan. Take a look at that, see, look at me and look inside of yourself and you will see that your altar is not Christ. You think your altar is Christ because you have the Holy Spirit, this is the message to the whole Pentecostal church, you think that it is Christ in you but it is not, you have the Holy Spirit, but your altar, because every man has an altar, our spiritual foundation is our altar, your altar is not Christ, your altar is the carnal mind.

 

Now that I have given you this seed which enables you to rise up, are you willing to see the truth? Are you willing to see your own carnal mind and all of the spiritual entities, all of Satan's thoughts within you that worship at the altar of your carnal mind, that was the choice that Jesus gave to John. Then he goes on in verse two to say, but the court which is without, let me read it from the King James, "But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not, for it is given unto the Gentiles and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months."

 

"But the court", the court I suggest to you is the physical body. Jesus is saying, do not be judging your physical body, do not worry about your physical body, but the court which is without the temple leave out, do not judge that, "and measure it not, for it is given to the", do not judge it, do not measure it, "for it is given unto the Gentiles", and what that means, the Gentiles is everyone that is not a Jew or a spiritual Jew. Basically what this means is that the physical body is not going to be saved, it is going to be, rather than saved, it is going to be tread under foot in forty and two months.

 

Looking at the Interlinear Text it says, "And the city the holy shall be tread under foot", and this Greek word tread under foot, means to be trampled. I suggest to you that what that means is that the physical body will not endure, the personality will endure, and the spirit of the mind will endure, the spirit of the carnal mind will converted into the Christ mind, but the physical body is for the trash heap, the physical body is not going to be saved, it is going to be trampled underfoot.

 

This term "forty and two months", I really, I can just make two comments on it, I really do not have a full revelation on it, first of all, the number forty two is one of the names of God, so we could be saying that this outer court or this physical body will be trampled under the feet of the name of God. That forty two represents, it is the name of God that is going to trample, that is going to overcome this physical body and give you a glorified body. The term "month" the only thing that I could tell you is that it is not a natural month, any time frame that you read especially in a book of prophecy, is talking about cosmic time periods, cosmic time periods, and I do not know what that means, in one place in the Scripture it says one year, one of our years is equal to a thousand years with God, that may be one interpellation, I really do not know, but we have to be very careful to not think in terms of natural days or in twenty four hour days when we are dealing with prophecy, because we are talking about cosmic time periods.

 

However, there is a possibility that the word months was added in by a translator, if we are going to translate verse 2 to say, do not worry about the physical body because that physical body is going to be trampled down, is going to be made into garbage by the name of God signified by the number forty two, then what do we do with the word "month"? I would ask the question, was that word added in by some translator who could not deal with the term forty two standing there by itself, I do not know. We know that with prophecy there is more than one interpretation, even, there is more than one interpretation coming from the Spirit of God, depending on the level of understanding of the translator, there could be a hundred translations of the same Scripture if we have a hundred different men each at a different level of understanding there will be one hundred translations or interpretations of that Scripture.

 

This is how I am going to leave it for now, do not measure, do not bother judging your physical body, because it is going to be trampled down by the name of God, called number forty two in due season, do not judge your physical body, in other words do not try to, well I am going to drop that right there.

 

Verse 3, "And I will give power unto my two witnesses and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and three score days clothed in sackcloth." The two witnesses, we will get to it I think in the next verse, or next verse or two, obviously are Elijah and Moses, but to think that it will be a specific manifestation of Elijah and Moses I think is wrong, because we know that Elijah and Moses appeared in Jesus of Nazareth, and that Jesus of Nazareth now glorified is appearing in us in the form of Christ. Therefore the two witnesses are the believer, the two witnesses are the believers who are manifesting the Christ, not Holy Spirit anointing but the Christ male anointing of the glorified Jesus Christ, that is who the two witness company is, that is who the two witnesses are, Christ who is appearing in a many membered body today. "And I will give two witnesses", the word "power" is not in the Greek, is that not interesting, "And I will give two witnesses unto you", not that He is going to give them power, but He is going to give two witnesses to the Church. He is going to give Christ Jesus to the Church, He is going to give the anointing to the Church. Adding that word "power" changes the whole dynamic of the sentence, and I will give two witnesses unto you and they shall prophesy, and prophesy, another way of saying prophecy is to preach, very interesting.

 

We have some numbers here again, "and they shall prophesy one thousand two hundred and three score days clothed in sackcloth", the sackcloth signifies the physical body. That means they will be natural men, preachers like me, preaching the word of God out of the sackcloth which covers my spirit, this sackcloth which covers Christ Jesus within me. The number is one thousand two hundred and three score, that is sixty, one thousand two hundred and sixty days. Again this most likely means cosmic days, however, on the other hand I would like to give something very interesting to think about, one hundred thousand two hundred and sixty days, when did this start? Did it begin with Jesus and John, did it begin with Jesus and Paul, this means that the time, if it did, if in fact we start counting from Jesus time frame, this would mean that the time was up, that seven hundred and forty five years ago, one thousand two hundred and sixty days from Jesus' ministry, ended somewhere about seven hundred and forty five years ago, approximately in the year 1260.

 

I said to the Lord, What happened in the year 1260? I went on line and tried to do some research in the encyclopedia, but I did not, you really cannot do much of that on line. I want to suggest to you that somewhere around the year 1260, maybe a little sooner, maybe a little later, I am not sure, Christianity came to Europe, Christianity appeared, they came out of the dark ages and appeared in the kings of Europe, especially in particular the kings of England which are responsible for spreading Christianity all over the world. It is true also that the other European nations were in the other parts of the world also, Spain, Portugal, Holland, I believe Germany, I am not sure about that, but they did evangelize Europe and Asia. They spread their brand of Christianity, some protestant, some Catholic, but at least they went with the name of Christ, and that is all that I can think of that happened in the year, began in the year 1260, let me read that again. "And I will give my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy unto, all of these years clothed in sackcloth." Maybe it began in the year 1260, and it is still going on, is that not an interesting thought? Not that they would do it, not that they would prophesy only for 1260 years, because one day, see this conversion of days to years, that is what I am saying now, it is just, you know, it is just a theory, that in this particular Scripture one day equals one year, not that it began, or not that the 1260 years began with Jesus and Paul, but that it began 1260 years after Jesus and Paul, and is still going on. I hope I made that clear.

 

Verse 4, "And these are the two olive trees", olive trees signifying the tree of life in the earth, olive tree in the earth. We determined that the tree of life in the garden before the fall was a palm tree, and that the tree of life in this fallen world is an olive tree which produces the oil of the anointing, and that the fig tree represents Israel with many seeds, some evil fig trees and some good fig trees. These are the two olive trees, these are the two manifestations Christ, Christ and Christ Jesus or Elijah and Moses, they are the two who give life in this fallen world, and they are also the two candlesticks, signifying that they are the vessels which hold the holy oil, they are both the tree and the candlesticks, the oil dwells within them. Praise the Lord, olive tree signifying that they are planted and visible in the earth, candlestick referring to their spiritual existence, that their spiritual function as the holder of the holy oil, the producer of the holy oil and the holder of the holy oil.

 

These are the two olive trees and the two candlesticks, who stand before the God of the earth. There is our witness that they are in the earth and they are standing, they are not lying down subject to Satan and Leviathan, they are standing up. Remember that the earth signifies the personality or Malkhut, so we are talking about the God of Malkhut. Now remember the Sefirot above, any Sefirot we are speaking about is a God to the Sefirot beneath it, so the God of Malkhut is Zeir Anpin, he is the God of Malkut, he is the husband of Malkhut and he is the one that brings life to Malkhut.

 

We see these two olive trees and these two candlesticks which produce and hold the oil and they are standing up before, or they are standing up because of the God of the earth, which is Christ Jesus or Zeir Anpin, which ever your preference is, is everybody okay so far? Verse 5, King James, "And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth and devoureth their enemies, and if any man will hurt them he must in this manner be killed." This word "hurt", is a very interesting word, we read in another chapter of the book of Revelation, "He will not be hurt of the second death." Hurt can mean judgment, you see, there could be a hurt that comes forth from a good motive, and a hurt that comes forth from an evil motive. "If any man will hurt them with an evil motive, fire proceedeth out of their mouth and devoureth their enemies."

 

This is so interesting because when the sons of God, not only when the sons of God judge sin but when they just come with the doctrine of Christ, frequently the carnal minds of men rise up to do challenge and to hurt them, even if the individual does not know what they are doing, the carnal mind rises up against the doctrine of Christ and also against the sons of God that carry this anointing. These two olive trees that are also candlesticks for the anointing of the Lord, everyone that carries this male Christ anointing, the more wicked the person is, the more likely the carnal mind is to be uncomfortable around them and rise up and attack them, and anybody, and what kind of attack? It does not have to be a physical attack, it could be a spiritual attack, it could be a challenge of the doctrine. Any man that will hurt them, these two olive trees, these two sons of God, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies, well what is the fire? The fire is the doctrine of Christ. I have seen the fire coming out of my mouth as I preach this message, or as I preach it in a personal conversation in an answer to a challenge to God or to a challenge to the doctrine of Christ, when I have the godly calm non-argumentative response that is coming out of the Christ in me, that is the lake of fire coming out of my mouth, my good fire extinguishes their evil fire, there is good fire and bad fire.

 

If anyone tries to hurt me, how do you try to hurt me? Maybe they are just trying to prove me invalid, but the word of God rises up out of me, proceedeth out of my mouth, fire, the lake of fire proceedeth out of my mouth. It could be a response in doctrine or it could be a rebuke, and devoureth their enemies. Whose enemies is it? Someone who does not like me, are they going to be devoured by the word of God, or is the word of God in me going to devour the enemies within you who are trying to hurt me?

 

God does not go around killing his enemies, but He does go around attacking the carnal mind of His enemies so that you will not be His enemy anymore, and then when you are His friend, then He blesses you. I want to suggest to you that the fire, whether it be doctrine, wisdom, righteousness or a rebuke that comes out of the mouth of the two witnesses, will devour the carnal mind of the person that is attacking them, and that is said the second time, "If any man will hurt them in this manner, must he be killed." In what manner? In the manner of righteousness, in the manner of truth. If the issue is doctrine, truth will kill his carnal mind, if the issue is sinful behavior, righteousness will put that man who manifested out of his carnal mind to shame, in this manner must they be killed, not for vengeance, the son of God may not stand up and hurt them or destroy them out of his carnal mind, no, no, in this manner they must be killed, the enemies of the sons of God must be killed with truth and righteousness, not with personal vengeance.

 

Verse 6, King James, "These have power to shut heaven that it rain not in the days of their prophecy, and have power over waters to turn them to blood and to smite the earth with all plagues as often as they will, these sons of God that have the anointing of Christ Jesus within them, have the power, have the authority, to shut heaven, and heaven Zeir Anpin, what does that mean? To cut off heaven, you see, the power that comes to the earth comes from the spiritual marriage between Zeir Anpin and Malkhut for those of us that are more into the terminology of Christ, it is the union or the marriage of the indwelling Christ to the personality that imparts power to the personality.

 

The power to shut off heaven is the power to separate or to break up that marriage between Zeir Anpin and Malkhut. You see, this marriage exist on the other side, there is a negative Zeir Anpin, and a negative Malkhut, now we are not going to say there is a negative Christ Jesus, but there is a Leviathan which is the negative counterpart of Christ Jesus. These two have the power to shut up the ungodly heaven, Leviathan is the ungodly heaven, and these two witnesses, Elijah and Moses which is the Christ Jesus anointing and the sons of God, have the power to break up the marriage between Leviathan in the personality which is producing an evil personality, they have the power to free and to liberate the personality from its marriage to Leviathan. Is that not exciting? Praise the Lord.

 

"These have the power to shut up heaven that it should not rain in the days of prophecy." We know that Elijah shut up the heavens, so that is the physical manifestation of it, but what would other preachers say, they would say that this means that there should be no Holy Spirit in the days of prophecy. Why would we not want the Holy Spirit in the days of prophecy unless it is a false Holy Spirit. They have the power to break up the marriage between Leviathan and the Cain aspect of the personality, and they also have the power to stop the rain of Satan which is the false Holy Spirit, and they also have power over the waters to turn them into blood. They have the power to turn the true Holy Spirit into the blood of Christ, they have the power to break up Cain's marriage to Leviathan, they have the power to stop Satan's unholy spirit which is the rain, that is the negative, that is the negative.

 

The positive is, that they have the power to go to these personalities, that they just saved from Satan and Leviathan and turned the waters of the true Holy Spirit into the blood of Christ which is going from the imputed anointing to the imparted anointing, and to smite the earth with all plagues as often as they will. Brethren, this is a very hard word, let me give you an analogy, when you read a lot of the Jewish writings, the Kabbalistic writings, judgment is usually expressed as Jehovah punishing the people, and this terminology is very offensive to Christians who believe that Jesus has nullified the law or who has brought mercy to them. Let me say it that way, that a lot of Christians are offended, Christians who believe that Jesus has come with mercy, the thought of being punished by God is very offensive to them.

 

I would like to just reiterate this one more time, that this concept of punishment refers to the sowing and reaping judgment, it is Jehovah's righteous sowing and reaping judgment, that way of expressing things, the Kabbalistic way of expressing this concept would be similar to a situation where you receive a letter from a, well on a couple of occasions I have protested a charge on my charge card, and I call it in, and then I get a letter in the mail signed by the head of the department, but the head of the department did not send out the letter, a clerk in the office sent out the letter, but they did in the name of the head of the department. Several times I have called and I have called asking to speak to the person whose name is on the letter, and I am told, you cannot speak to them, they are the head of the whole department, but I will let you speak to the person who sent out the letters.

 

When the Kabbalists say, when the Jews say, that Jehovah punished them, it is really Satan the enforcer of the sowing and reaping judgment, enforcing the sowing and reaping judgment that Jehovah put in place, it does not mean that Jehovah is there throwing lightning bolts down at you. When we get to this verse in the book of Revelation that says the two witnesses have the power to plague the people, let me read it again, let me start from the beginning, verse 6, so these have the power, these sons of God, they have the power to break up the marriage between Leviathan and Cain within the personality that shut heaven, that it should not rain, that Satan's unholy spirit should not rain, while these holy sons of God are prophesying, and let me just stop here for a minute.

 

We briefly encountered that unholy spirit bringing what was called the gold dust anointing. There are two occasions on which I personally with several of my other disciples here, encountered that spirit, and we stopped it, we stopped it dead in its tracks, on both occasions. We did not stop it from flowing that night that we were present, although we did succeed in diminishing it but in one case within six months if not sooner, the man who was bringing that anointing into the church had a controversy with the pastor, they broke up. I speak to someone who goes to that church, it is not in New York State, and there is no more sign of gold dust anointing at all anymore, that anointing, that false anointing was flushed out of the church, although it happened a couple of months after we came in and rebuked it.

 

The second occasion was right here in Long Island, we went in and rebuked it, and the anointing that night diminished, the people who were bringing that false anointing were disappointed that it did not manifest more powerfully, and I think within a year or so, it pretty much left Long Island, it never prospered. These two witnesses, these sons of God that are manifesting Christ Jesus which is the anointing known from another point of view, as a Elijah and Moses which was found in Jesus, they have the power to shut heaven, which the unholy heaven is Leviathan, to separate Leviathan from Cain, the Cain part of the personality, and to stop it from raining, that is Satan's unholy spirit. While these holy men of God are prophesying, Leviathan you cannot be married to Cain and rule in that direction, and neither can Satan's unholy rain flow when they are prophesying. They also have the power, now the positive side, these sons of God have the power to turn the true Holy Spirit into blood, to raise up and mature the believers with the Holy Spirit from female disciples because the Holy Spirit is female into the beginnings of manhood, which is the blood of Jesus. They also have the power to smite the earth with all plagues as often as they will. What does that mean?

 

The earth is talking about the personality, these sons of God have the authority to bring down plagues upon the disciples who are in rebellion or otherwise resisting or fighting with the male anointing that has already been given to them. I really have to make this very clear to you, the sons of God do not go around prophesying disaster on people, but I have seen it happen here so many times that people that come close to this anointing, and I just had this conversation with someone yesterday, they like the books, they like the message, sometimes they listen to the messages, but they really do not give it a whole hearted, they do not get involved whole hearted, they do not get involved whole heartedly, they are in just deep enough for Satan to see them.

 

Satan is not looking at the whole world, but when you start entering in through listening to messages or reading books, when you join yourself to this ministry, you appear in a spiritual realm that is higher than the average person, and Satan sees you. For you to just put your toe in the water and just read books, and not get involved in the ministry which strengthens Christ in you and defends you because you become a part of the whole, what happens is that you become very vulnerable, you are a part of the ministry but you are isolated, and Satan comes and looks for any legal ground to hurt you with the sowing and reaping judgment.

 

What this last phrase means where it says that the two witnesses shall smite the earth with all plagues as often as they will, and this is a hard word, but what it means is, that the son of God, the teacher who is disciplining disciples in Christ Jesus, if that teacher makes a judgment after much prayer and attempts to help the person, that they are really not fully committed, the result of that, and it really is a legal judgment, the teacher is responsible to make that judgment, just like a teacher in any school gives a grade, at certain times that the Lord comes to the teacher, and they have to face reality that this disciple is not giving it all that they have, from that time forward that the Lord Jesus comes to the teacher and the teacher has to face the reality that this disciple is not doing what they are capable of doing, they are doing less than what they are capable of doing, then Satan moves in and drops plagues and judgments upon that disciple, but please do not think that any teacher like myself or anyone else goes around executing plagues on people because that is not how it works.

 

What we do is give a grade and the Lord comes to us and there is no set time, but the Lord has come to me and it is really hard to describe how this spiritual experience plays out, I am putting it in simple English as much as I can, the Lord does come to me, and the disciples are given grades, and when a judgment is made, and usually it is after a long time, it is after a long time and it is after many warnings, when a judgment is made that, that disciple is not doing all that they should be doing so that Christ in them can mature so that they could stand up and be blessing to humanity which is what they are called to be, then they become vulnerable to the sowing and reaping judgment. They come out from under the protection that we call the white throne judgment, which the protection of the white throne judgment is, if you sin, you are under the authority of an elder, or the Lord will send that elder to you to tell you that you have done something wrong, and you have the opportunity to correct it before a judgment falls upon you. If you are a person who has one foot in and one foot out of a ministry of the intensity that is present here and you do not respond to those corrections of the elder, you open yourself to the sowing and reaping judgment and Satan becomes your judge, and that is what this verse means, that they have the power to smite the earth with as many plagues as often as they will. That power is in the recognition that, that person is not doing all that they could do to follow the path that the Lord has set them on. I hope I made that clear? Everyone is passing out in the spirit here.

 

Verse 7, King James, "And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascended out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them and shall overthrow them and kill them." Please notice the lack of pronouns here, "And when they shall have finished their testimony," well that is probably the two witnesses, the sons of God, when they finish preaching, when they finish explaining to you that you have to be more involved in this ministry because you are very vulnerable because of your lack of involvement, when they have finished teaching, explaining, doing whatever they can to help that person, "the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them."

 

Who is the beast? The fiery Serpent is the beast, where is the bottomless pit? The bottomless pit is the belly, the third energy center. Do you remember that the Fiery Serpent increases into Satan and ascends up, and if she can do it, she goes all the way up to the brow energy center at which point you become a full blown witch. When the sons of God preach if the person does not repent, and not only repent, you have to start to fight against your own carnal mind, I guess I should not even say that, this message stirs up the powers and principalities within you, why? Because it is a call to war.

 

When this message is preached to somebody and you receive the male seed and now Christ is in you, He is now king of your vessel and He is giving a direct challenge to the king that possesses you which is Leviathan. The part of you that is possessed that is in agreement with Leviathan is called your Fiery Serpent, and your Fiery Serpent gets very mad when the sons of God come and preach this empowering message to you, and in their anger, they increase into Satan who flies up to the heart center, and if she can, she goes up to the heart center, and if she can, she goes up to the brow center from where she becomes very powerful, we have that message in the message called "And the Swine Fell Down", praise the Lord.

 

When they finish their testimony, and that word 'testimony' is the Greek word that sounds like martyr, I do not remember the Greek word, "And after they manifested the indwelling Christ to you in whatever way He manifests Himself to you, the Fiery Serpent ascends up out of your third belly energy center to make war against you." Let me see what it says in the Interlinear Text here, "When they had finished their testimony", that means when they had given evidence that Christ is present within them, the beast ascends up out of the bottomless pit, and makes war against them, can make war against the two witnesses or can make war against the person that you preached to. You see, further to what I just said, when a judgment is made, that a disciple is not living up to their potential, let me start again, when you come into a ministry like that, you come under the protection of the headship of this ministry, no judgment or grade is given to you apart from the glorified Jesus Christ, this is not something that is done out of the carnal mind of the teacher or by the teacher sovereignly. This judgment that you are not living up to your potential, if that is the case, comes down from the glorified Jesus Christ. When that judgment comes down, the beast that rises up from within you, it not only attacks the teacher it attacks you, and suddenly you are sick, you never had a problem in your life, suddenly with no warning, you are sick, the beast has risen up within you and smitten you because you dare to participate in this deep word but you did not participate deep enough to receive the protection that was in the ministry

 

This is not God punishing you, you are in a war. This is the reality of the war, you, by not doing all you could do, have made yourself vulnerable to the principalities and powers that dwell within you that do not like you reading these books. The beast rises up to make war against them, both against the son of God and the individual, especially if the son of God who is the teacher is mature enough at that point to throw off the attack of the beast within you, even though you do not know what is happening, it is a part of the subconscious part of your mind that is attacking, if the teacher is powerful enough to throw off the attack, then for sure it is going to go on you, and you will be sick or have some kind of unhappiness in your life.

 

"He shall rise up from the bottomless pit and make war against them", against Christ or against you, but Christ shall overcome them. The King James just says, "And overcome them", but I am saying, but Christ shall overcome them, the powers and principalities, the beasts that are rising up in all of the people, and kill them. If you are submitted to a ministry and you overcome by your own carnal mind, and you had a reaction from your carnal mind against the teacher that is teaching you that you were not aware of or that you failed to control and rebuke, that beast within you will rise up, will attack the teacher if it can, will attack you if it can, but Christ in the teacher will rise up and kill that beast in due season, we are not told how long it is going to take.

 

That is encouraging, amen? Going on, verse 8, "And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt where also our Lord was crucified." This whole teaching came about because we have been doing a study on Sodom, and I am doing this message because the Lord led me to do it, but this is the verse that started the whole thing, "And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt where also our Lord was crucified." The dead body brethren is the carnal mind, remember, the carnal mind is the body that contains the spirit that is becoming Christ. Anything that contains something else is a body to that which is contained. The body that is dead is the carnal mind and the body that is living is the mind of Christ. We are renewed in the spirit of our mind, it is the same spirit that dwells in us that is the spirit of the carnal mind and the spirit of the Christ mind. The dead body is the carnal mind. "And their carnal minds shall lie in the street of the city." Brethren, each of us is a city, we are city, we are world depending on the context of the sentence. "Of the great city which is called spiritually Sodom and Egypt."

 

From our studies in the Secret of Sodom and Gomorrah, we found out that Sodom is the fourth energy center and Egypt is the third energy center. We also have found out recently that Sodom is Gehennum, the manifestation of hell which people are, to be in that category called Gehennum, you are having hellish experiences but you have repented and are crying out to God to help you. There are at least three words that are translated "hell", and that is significance of Gehennum, it is like purgatory, not in accordance with the Catholic purgatory, you can buy your way out, you cannot buy your way out of true purgatory, you can only, first of all you need the mercy of Jesus Christ, to impart the power, and then once you acquire the mercy of Jesus Christ, then you work your way out by confessing your sins and overcoming, not doing those sins anymore.

 

Brethren, I do not have any clear enough concept of what happens after death to preach it, but I know that heaven and hell exists in the flesh. Maybe there is a heaven and hell after you die also, that is very possible, I am not prepared to preach about that at this time, but I know that a condition of mind and sometimes a physical condition if your body is in pain all of the time, of hell, and heaven, exists in the flesh in this life. Hell exists in this life, purgatory exists in this life, heaven exists in this life and sometimes one person experiences all of those experiences, you know, not coincidentally but from day to day, we experience different experiences, depending on what our life is, what our condition of this world is, praise the Lord.

 

We are told that their dead bodies, their carnal minds will lie in the street of the city which the individual is, of the great city, which is spiritually called Sodom and Egypt, that is the union of the third and the fourth energy center. We have done so much teachings on the third and fourth energy center, the fourth energy center which is the heart energy center where the ascended, when Adam within us stands up, he stands up in the heart energy center and he rules over the Fiery Serpent in the third energy center. The Fiery Serpent in the third energy center in the belly, it is the seat of all animal lust and passion, physical lust and mental lust. When the first Adam stands up, and you may recall that in verse one I believe, John was told to rise up, stand up, stand up above the belly where you are now living in, and where you are now living out of, and when the first Adam rises up and stands up, he stands in the heart center.

 

This great city is the combination of the fourth and third energy centers where the first Adam is standing in the fourth center and ruling over and controlling the third energy center, apparently together, those two energy centers are called a city, I am not sure what the name of the city is, it may be Jerusalem, I am not really sure, because we have a holy Jerusalem and there is a unholy Jerusalem, I am not really sure about that, so we will keep on going. "This is where also our Lord was crucified." That is really interesting because if it is correct that this is John the Baptist that is being ministered to by Jesus who is having this experience, then who is the Lord who was crucified because Jesus was not yet crucified.

 

I remind you that there were two crucifixions, there is the crucifixion of Christ and there is the crucifixion of the man Jesus of Nazareth. 1 Corinthians 15, we read about how Christ rose on the third day, so there was a spiritual crucifixion of the Christ within the man Jesus of Nazareth. Christ rose from the dead in the man Jesus of Nazareth, and that was when Jesus went into full stature, that happened approximately three years before the physical crucifixion of Jesus of Nazareth. We see that, remember this is John the Baptist that is having this spiritual experience which is raising him up from a man with the imputed anointing to a man with the imparted anointing, which is raising him up from being a spiritual female to being a spiritual male and we are told that the dead bodies, the carnal mind will lie in the street of that great city which is formed by the third and fourth energy centers, the same place where the Lord, or our Lord, that word "our" could be his Lord, or our Lord, it is just a pronoun, was crucified.

 

That means that Jesus of Nazareth who was at this moment Lord to John the Baptist, because Jesus was of a higher anointing and ministering to him, this does not mean that Jesus was God, it means that He had the honorary title of being an elder or a Lord to John the Baptist. Jesus was crucified in his belly energy center. Do you remember Paul saying, I am crucified yet I live, this is a crucifixion that did not kill Jesus but imparted life to Him because the crucifixion killed His carnal mind. We see that John the Baptist who is receiving this ministry and all of us who will be sons of God, or are sons of God, we all must be crucified, and third energy center which when it is ruled over by the fourth energy center which is controlled by Leviathan, you see, it is Cain that is in the third energy center, Cain and Abel are the Fiery Serpent in the third energy center, and Leviathan in the fourth energy center is penetrating Cain in the third energy center, and that is the unholy marriage, the crucifixion is a double edged sword. The crucifixion of Christ comes, Christ stands up in the fourth energy center and crucifies Abel in the third energy center, breaks up the marriage between Cain and Leviathan and crucifies Abel to create the holy city. I guess I have to put this on the board.

 

This is drawing #1, I have entitled it the two potential conditions of the heart center, A) possessed by Leviathan, B) possessed by Adam, and the heart center is in the position of Tiferot, on the left side. Satan's waters are always in the heart center, we are told in the book of Revelation, that the sea has disappeared and in its place is a crystal sea, so whether it be a liquid sea or a crystal sea, Satan which is a manifestation actually of Gevurah which is power is always present in the heart center.

 

When the heart center is possessed by Leviathan as is the case on the left, we see Leviathan the sea serpent swimming in the heart center which is flooded by Satan's sea and Leviathan is reaching down into the third energy center which is the Yesod. Cain and Abel are present in the Yesod, that is the seed. In the case of, when the heart center is possessed by Leviathan, Cain is above Abel, and Leviathan has a marriage to Cain and Abel is captive. In the condition when Adam stands up and ascends into the heart center and prevails over Satan, we see the upper part of the heart center dry ground because Adam has dried out Satan to that degree, but Satan's sea is still affecting the Yesod which is now Abel above Cain, however Adam is married to Abel.

 

When Adam or Christ is possessing the heart center, Adam has a two edged sword, he comes in and he breaks up the marriage between Leviathan and Cain, and you might say recreates the heart center, and now the heart center shows Adam married to Abel, which brings righteousness to the vessel. Did I explain that, is that okay, do you understand that, got it, any questions?

 

We are going to take a picture and then I will do one more.

 

We are looking at drawing #2, in which I am showing you that great spiritual city which is the union of Gevurah, Tiferet, and the Yesod, which is Cain and Abel. The spiritual waters fall from Gevurah to the heart center, that is where the water in the heart center comes from, from Gevurah. Gevurah, you may recall, is pure energy and can be controlled by Satan and Leviathan which produces the carnal mind, or can be controlled by Adam or Christ Jesus as you will which produces the mind of God, but the Holy Spirit that comes from the glorified Jesus Christ, is a manifestation of Gevurah, because it is the power of God, it is the power of God without or separated from the righteousness of God. Gevurah is both the Holy Spirit and the counterfeit Holy Spirit, depending on which intelligence is controlling the power.

 

That great city is a combination of Gevurah which I am trying to interpolate this now, if the heart center is the fourth center, I do not know whether Gevurah would be the throat center or the center between the eyebrows. My guess would be the throat center because the center between the eyebrows must have something to do with the mind, so I would say, Gevurah would be the equivalent of the throat center, we speak, whatever we speak, that is the power to bring it to come to pass. The great city is Gevurah which would be the fifth energy center, the heart which is the fourth energy center and the belly which is Cain and Abel or the Yesod, the third energy center, that is that great spiritual city mentioned in Revelation 11:8, and that city can be, that great city of God, and the great city of the other side. The great city of the other side would be Gevurah where Leviathan is controlling the heart center, and Leviathan married to Cain all controlling Malkhut, and we are talking about the personality of a man.

 

When you are that man, when Gevurah is present in the heart center and Adam is standing and ruling in you or Christ Jesus is standing and ruling over those waters of the heart center, and married to Abel, and then also married to Malkhut, you are a righteous man. When the waters of Gevurah are flowing over the heart center and Leviathan is the sea Serpent swimming in those waters, and Leviathan is married to Cain and that union is controlling Malkhut, you are an evil man.

 

In this case, the ascended Adam walks above the sea of the heart center. Xxxx is going to read Matthew 14:25-26 for us. Matthew 14:25-26, "And in the fourth watch of the night, Jesus went unto them walking on the sea, and when the disciples saw Him walking on the sea, they were troubled saying, It is a spirit, and they cried out for fear."

 

I have been preaching for a while, that Jesus walking upon the water was a symbol of Jesus' dominion over Satan, and I never believed that He truly walked on any physical water. Here we have an even deeper understanding that Jesus really did walk on the water, but that, that there really is a spiritual water, that He was walking above the water of His own heart center. He was completely ruling over the power of the fifth energy center and married to Abel within Himself and controlling Malkhut within Himself, and He was completely above Satan's ability to make Him sin. Praise the Lord.

 

We now see that spiritual waters flow from Gevurah into the heart center, whether those waters be the Holy Spirit or the false Holy Spirit, or the counterfeit Holy Spirit. Let us see what else we have here, the ascended Adam is married to Abel, and Abel is married to Malkhut, and we have that great spiritual city of Revelation 11:8, which we will call the new or the renewed or the holy Jerusalem, and Xxxx is going to read four Scriptures for us, Galatians 4:26, Hebrews 12:22, Revelation 3:12, and Revelation 21:2.

 

Galatians 4:26, "But Jerusalem which is above is free which is the mother of us all."

 

Hebrews 12:22, "But ye are come unto Mount Zion and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels."

 

Revelation 3:12, "Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and He shall go no more out, and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is New Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven for my God, and I will write upon Him my new name."

 

Revelation 21:2, "And I John, saw the holy city, New Jerusalem coming down out of heaven prepared as a bride adorned for her husband."

 

Praise the Lord, now of course this is the holy great city, there is a great city on the side of unholiness, and the man that is manifesting that great city would be a powerful witch. Praise the Lord, let us move on now with verse 9 in the King James, "And they of the people and kindred and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and a half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves." This is an interesting verse, I remind you that the dead bodies, the carnal mind, it is the carnal mind that is the body that is dead, it is the body of death that Paul was talking about. Of course Paul was saying, who will deliver me from this physical body, but even more than that, he was saying, who will deliver me from this mind of death, this body of death? Verse 9 says, "And they shall see of the people and of the kindred and of the tongues", I did not go into looking all that up again, but it is the different kinds of nations and peoples and aspects of the mind, and personality, they shall see their dead bodies, they shall recognize their carnal mind, after they have the opportunity to compare it to the Christ mind. Brethren, we can only learn by comparison.

 

The greatest men of the earth in their carnal minds will realize that they are nothing but sinners when they compare themselves to the Christ mind. I want to suggest to you that this verse that says, "And the peoples and the kindreds and the tongues and the nations shall see the dead bodies", their own dead bodies. I want to suggest to you that all of the peoples of the world, of every elk, will recognize that their carnal mind is dead, after having the opportunity to witness and experience and hear and see the manifestation of the glorious mind of Christ flowing through human beings just like themselves. Hallelujah.

 

We are told in verse 9 that this will continue for three and one half, I think it is days, let me see in verse 9, "And their dead bodies three days and a half". I do not really have a revelation on the numbers, I told you that earlier, but I will tell you that these are cosmic days, cosmic days. I am not going to say anything about it because, well the thought that just dropped in to my mind was that Jesus' ministry was three and half years, if you want to make anything out of that, I do not know, I am not going to deal with the time periods, other than to say, we are talking about cosmic days here, we are not talking about twenty four hour days.

 

"And shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in the graves", and that Greek word translated "suffer" Strong's #863, it means they will not give up, they will not stop resisting the mind of Christ, or Christ Jesus, that is flowing through the prophets, the carnal mind will never give up, they shall not suffer until they are smitten. I know that personally, I know people in this ministry know that, that no matter how much we the personality would like our carnal mind to give up, that carnal mind just does not give up, it has to be defeated. They are going to recognize that their carnal mind is dead, that is the dead body, but the dead body will not give up. The carnal mind will not give up even after it is identified, as inferior to Christ and criminal, the carnal mind will not lay down and die, it will not go down into the grave, it will not go down and submit to the Christ within that same personality. "They will not lie down in the graves", the translation should not be "to be put in the graves", that Greek word Strong's #5087 means to lie down, the carnal mind, the dead body, will not lie down in the grave, and we are the graves, this physical body is the grave.

 

Jesus told the Pharisees that they were walking sepulchers, graves. This physical body is the grave, that carnal mind will not lie down under the Christ in the grave, because they are both in the grave, Christ and the carnal mind, the living body and the dead body are both in the grave of the human being, and that old carnal mind will not lie down, it has to be smitten, it just will not lie down.

 

Verse 10, King James, "And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry and shall send gifts one to another because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth." Looking at the Interlinear Text now, I see that I do have a comment written down on this three and half years. If you want to say each year is equal to a thousand, this process of identifying the carnal mind and challenging it to lie down will continue for 3500 years. That is interesting because I have always said, that once the company of sons stand up in full power, it is probably going to take 2000 years to cleanse, to bring humanity into a place where all of humanity is worshiping God and in their Christ mind. If you want to, I said 2000, it could easily be only 1500 years, it is now 2000 years since Jesus of Nazareth was glorified, and if you add another 1500 years which that is what I have been saying, it is going to take 1500 or 2000 years to cleanse the whole earth, then that is what this three and a half years might mean, that it is going to take 3500 years from the day of Jesus' glorification, and of course that is a round number, until all of humanity is cleansed enough to be serving God, praise the Lord, if that is what it means.

 

Then we are told that they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice. Those that dwell upon the earth or above the earth, that word "upon" is a translation of Strong's #1909 which means "above". Those that dwell above the earth shall rejoice. Brethren this is talking about spiritual entities, the personality is the earth, the physical body is the earth, the ones that live above us, the spiritual powers and principalities that live through us and feed off us shall rejoice because the carnal minds will resist the message of Christ to rise up and throw off the yoke of the oppressor and be liberated. When the powers and principalities that live through us, see that they have such control over the personalities, that they will not agree, they shall rejoice, those who live above the earth shall rejoice that the personalities will not be responding to the call from Christ to rise up and throw off the yoke of the oppressor.

 

We are told that "they shall make merry", I have written down here that, that word means rejoice, that make merry means rejoice, I wonder why they have two words like that, let me check that. The Greek word translated "rejoice", Strong's #5463 can be translated "to say farewell". Those powers and principalities that are above the personalities that are living through the personalities shall say farewell to Christ because they will perceive that Christ has failed, they will say "farewell to Christ and they will make merry", and that Greek word means "to rejoice and be happy", and they will send gifts.

 

The word translated "gift" means to sacrifice, it is talking about the spiritual gifts that you bring to the altar, the sacrifice, and the Greek word translated "to send" really means to thrust in, and I want to suggest to you what this means is that those powers and principalities that are higher than the earth who victimized mankind, they shall say farewell to Christ and rejoice and they shall sacrifice to their god, Satan, and they shall thrust, these are manifestations of Leviathan, they shall thrust into Cain. Remember what I have on the board here? Adam is married to Abel, and on drawing #1, I showed you how when Christ comes into somebody's life, He breaks the marriage tie between Leviathan and Cain, and He marries Abel.

 

These manifestations of Leviathan in the individual are going to be saying farewell to Adam, and they are going to sacrifice to Satan and who are they going to sacrifice, they are going to sacrifice Christ to Satan, in the people who failed to take the victory. Leviathan is going to sacrifice Christ in you to Satan, and thrust himself into Cain, He is going to re-consummate the marriage on the unholy side. Praise the Lord.

 

"One to another, because these two prophets", and that is Elijah and Moses in the form of Christ Jesus within the individual, have tormented them. This Greek word "torment", Strong's #928, when you take it back to its root, it means to thrust down to the bottom, it is talking about the tribulation which forces the carnal mind under the authority of Christ. These ones who live above the earth, they are Leviathan in the individual, just like we have Christ in the individual, and then a glorified Jesus Christ, there is Leviathan in the individual and a higher manifestation of Leviathan. These people or these entities that live above the earth, it is Leviathan in the individual, is going to sacrifice Christ, re-consummate the marriage with Cain, and all of this rejoicing will be because of the two prophets who tormented them, who forced Satan and Leviathan down under Christ is now defeated, that is why they are rejoicing. The Christ who forced the carnal mind, Satan, and Leviathan, to submit to Christ, to submit to holiness, to submit to righteousness, they think has been defeated.

 

Look at the Church today, anyone without knowledge would say, Christ has been defeated. The Church, from a spiritual point of view is pitiful, no power, there is no power in the church, you cannot tell the difference between the people in the Church and the people in the world. The church is filled with sin, it is a situation that is similar to, when the Midianite women came into the Hebrew camp. That was when, sorry with my names, Cosby, Cosby was the woman that was fornicating with the Hebrew prince, and I am sorry I cannot remember the name of, at the moment of the man who came in and slew them, and saved Israel from a severe judgment of God. Phinehas was the one who came in and slew Cosby and I forget the name of the, I think Cosby was the woman, I forget the name of the man, and saved Israel from a great judgment of God, that same judgment is upon the Church today. We have been, well not us but those members of the Church that are carnal and weak and infantile and rejecting the male in Christ, they are bride who refuses to get married. Their condition can be likened to the condition of the Israelites after the Midianite women seduced them, and Phinehas rose up and was the hero who saved Israel.

 

There has to be a spiritual hero that is going to rise up and slay the carnal minds of the people, so that they can start functioning in Christ again. Praise the Lord.

 

Verse 10, "...and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another", they are going to sacrifice Christ from person to person, because these two prophets that forced Satan and Leviathan, those who dwelt above the earth down under Christ.

 

Verse 11, King James, "And after three days and a half, the spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet and great fear fell upon them which saw them." Look at all of pronouns, "And after three days and a half, the spirit of life from God entered into", entered into who? "And they", who are they? "Stood upon whose feet"? "And great fear fell upon them", who? "Which saw them", who? This whole verse is open to interpretation.

 

"And after three days and a half", we do not know, you know this may be three and half days in your personal life, it may be three and half years in your personal life, it may be your whole lifetime, and it may be three thousand five hundred years for the whole world, for the whole of the fallen Adam to experience this. After this spiritual cosmic time period, "and the spirit of life from God entered into them", entered in to who? I have two choices, entered into Christ Jesus, did Christ Jesus die? Did Christ in the sons of God die? I do not think so, I mean, there are people right now in my life, I am teacher in Christ, I am a spiritual male in Christ, and there are people right now who have refused my seed, did I die? No, I did not die.

 

I want to suggest to you that the spirit of life is going to enter into all of the people that died because they did not receive the male seed of Christ, all of those people whose carnal minds refused to lie down in the grave and submit to Christ, they are the one that the spirit of life is going to enter into, in due season. After you have had a conflict and a confrontation with a son of God, it is just a matter of time until the spirit of life enters into you, but you will be under judgment for that period however long it is, in your particular life. I have been saying this for years actually, once you have had a confrontation with a son, assuming that the seed has been imparted to you as a result of that confrontation, it is just a matter of time until the seed sprouts and you go under judgment, which judgment destroys your carnal mind, and Christ is the king of your person, praise the Lord.

 

After three and half years, the spirit of life from God is going to enter into the whole of the fallen Adam, all of the many members of mortal humanity, the peoples of the world, and they will stand upon their feet. The feet signifies the carnal mind. That means Christ in them, the seed that they received as a result of the conflict with a son of God is going to stand up and step on or tread under or put underfoot the carnal mind, they will stand upon the feet their carnal mind. Hallelujah, glory to God.

 

"And great fear fell upon them which saw them", them, who are we talking about? Great fear fell upon the powers and principalities that saw Christ stand up in these people. Leviathan thought that they won, because they saw separation between the rebellious disciple and the teacher, they thought they won but they did not know that a seed was planted, that in due season was going to stand up and put them under their feet. The rebellious disciple, Christ is going to stand up in the rebellious disciple and overcome their carnal mind and great fear fell upon the individual manifestations of Leviathan in the individual that saw this happening, they were terrified, they who had sacrificed Christ saw Christ in a personal experience rise in the dead in that person.

 

Verse 12, "And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither, and they ascended up to heaven in a cloud and their enemies beheld them." Here we go again, "they heard", who heard? "Saying unto them", saying unto who? "Come up hither, and they ascended", who ascended? "And their enemies", whose enemies? It is a matter of interpretation and it is up to the spirit that is interpreting it.

 

"And they heard a great voice", I suggest to you all of the people who are now standing after their rebellion, after their departure from their teacher, after all of the judgment they experienced, they were now standing, they heard a great voice from heaven, who is heaven? Heaven is Zeir Anpin, Christ Jesus, heaven is Christ Jesus, where the voice coming from? It was coming from the teacher that they rebelled against who has never stopped praying for them for one minute. They heard a great voice saying unto them, come up hither, come up where I am, come and be a spiritual male, do not stay down there in the pig pen.

 

"And they ascended up", what does that mean? It means the teacher forgave their sins. Jesus said, whoever sins you remit, they shall be remitted, that means their sins shall be forgiven by the teacher that they revile. "And they ascended up to heaven", they ascended up into Christ Jesus, they became a bonafide member of the body of Christ because Christ was ruling in them. They ascended up in a cloud, and clouds mean judgment, clouds signify Binah, they ascended up as a result of the judgment that came down from that high level of Binah. "And they beheld", that word means, "they saw", "their enemies". What I suggest to you that means is that mankind's eyes are opened and they see the spiritual enemy within as their carnal mind, this is going to happen on an individual level, but it is going to be happening to the whole of fallen Adam.

 

For years as I was going through this training, it has just been quite an experience going through this training that I have been going through with the Lord. I was having dreams for the longest period that I was in diner and it was like an old mafia type gang would come in with longs coats and machine guns and they were shooting up the whole place, but I could never see the face of the enemy, in my dreams I could never see the face of the enemy. In this particular situation the enemies were people in my ministry but I could not recognize them and I was hurt because I could not recognize them, because my carnal mind was ruling, my carnal mind could not deal with what was happening. When Christ stands up in us, we will both see the enemy within us because my enemy was my carnal mind, I was getting hurt because my carnal mind would not face the truth that Christ was telling me, so the enemy was within me, my carnal mind and the enemy was people in this very ministry who are manifesting their own carnal mind. When we stand up in Christ we will see the enemy wherever he is, and that is the first and absolutely necessary step before resolution to the problem, reconciliation and peace can come.

 

You must see the enemy, you must recognize what they have done, you must face it without condemnation and you must find what God's solution is to the problem. Hallelujah, verse 13, this is the last verse, King James. "And the same hour was there a great earthquake and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake was slain of men 7,000, and the remnant were affrighted and gave glory to the God of heaven." And in that same cosmic time period, it may not be the same time for you as it is for me, but there is a specific time period for the individual and there is a collective time period which is about 3500 years during which the whole of humanity will be reconciled, but your experience may be a whole lifetime or a whole day, I do not know. In the same hour, what same hour, in the same hour that your eyes opened and you recognized that enemy is in people, that it is in you, and it is in other people, in that same hour there was an earthquake, a great earthquake and a tenth part of the city fell.

 

In a recent study we found out what the tenth was, but I could not find it in time for this message, and I know that we have revelation on it, so I do not really know specifically what it means to put it on this message, but there was a great earthquake and a tenth of the city fell and were slain in the earthquake. The city is the city that we have on the board, it is the city of the other side, the combination of Gevurah, Satan, Leviathan, and Cain. That wicked city fell, the carnal mind went down, and were slain, all of the manifestations of Leviathan in that earthquake of, "and a tenth part of the city fell and in the earthquake were slain men, 7,000", I am not bothering with the numbers as I told you, a thousand generally means children of wisdom, and 7 is a number that is frequently imputed to all of the Sefirot from Binah downward.

 

If that is the interpretation here, it would mean all of the Sefirot from Chokhmah down through Malkhut, "and in the earthquake were slain of men 7,000", that would mean all of the Sefirot except the Keter on the evil side were slain, that means even the people that were in the highest level of principalities on the other side, that means the most powerful carnal mind around were slain in this earthquake, what is this earthquake? "And the remnant was affrighted", I have to put this on the board.

 

Drawing #3, I have the Sefirot spelled out here and I show you that Chokhmah is 1,000 and the seven Sefirot from Binah down is really Zeir Anpin, I should have really put that up there, so 7,000 would be Chokhmah and Binah and Zeir Anpin as one unit, that is a very high level of the godhead, which is from my understanding a combination of Jehovah and Elohim, it is the combined Jehovah and Elohim, that is what that would mean.

 

In our studies on the Gates of Reincarnation, I know I have not preached it yet, but that is where I am coming from. Concerning incarnation, we are all a part of higher levels, just like our body is filled with trillions of cells, a certain group of cells form our heart, a certain group of cells for our liver, so this particular cell could be a part of our heart, and also a part of the whole Sheila, there is cell that is a part of my liver, and also a part of the whole Sheila. In the same manner we as individuals, are parts of a much greater whole, we are the cells of the body of higher spiritual being, if you can hear that, and I do not know how well I am explaining this, but I am going to try.

 

Basically we as human beings are down here at that bottom of the board, we are, let me say this another way, the aspects of the higher body, the body of Christ if you will, the body of Christ, the body of Adam Kadmon, however you want to look at it, I do not have any more information right now, the higher level, levels that are higher than us have a name, and these names may not be right, but just for purposes of understanding, there is a name Gevurah on a high level, let us say, and we are all a part of that entity. Do you understand what I am saying, we, the human beings on this level where we exist, are so low down that we do not have a name, or we do not have a number, we are down here, we are what they call sparks of Malkhut, that is how low down we are.

 

In other words, we are a part of an organ that is a part of a body, that is a part of a bigger body, whatever the truth is, I do not even know that my mind could even comprehend it at this time, I just receive the principle. Is everybody okay with that?

 

Applying that to verse 13 of Revelation chapter 11, "And in the same hour there was a great earthquake and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake was slain of men 7,000", that means the analogous part of the unholy city, that would be equal to the combination of Jehovah and Elohim, that on the other side, Leviathan and Satan combined strength fell at the very high level of Satanic strength that comes down.

 

"And the remnant were affrighted", that is the remnant or the sparks of Malkhut are the remnant, and the remnant are the people as we know, human beings. The very high powers and principalities are coming down, the human beings are an unnumbered multitude. We read about it in other chapters of the book of Revelation, multitudes, unnumbered multitudes, what that means is, that there is a particular name, a particular name that has spiritual name that has spread itself out through just for the purposes of understanding.

 

I have been preaching this for years, that one Fiery Serpent can be manifested in many human beings, so this same spiritual entity that has a name, we will say, Fiery Serpent, he could be at the same time manifesting through five people or ten people, or fifteen people, and these five or fifteen people are just sparks that are amongst, they are numbered multitudes, because this Fiery Serpent has the power to manifest itself possibly in an unlimited number of physical skins, which we are, we are the skins.

 

Since we are just the skins and we are not the reality, we are not even numbered, got it? The sparks, that is the people, were afraid and gave glory to the God of heaven, when the powers and principalities are brought down, the personalities will become afraid. Who are they are afraid of? It means that they are going to become afraid of God, but the fear of God, the true fear of God is not the fear of a god that is going to kill you or punish you, that is not fear of God, it is the same word, but that is not the true fear. The true fear of God is the honor and respect and reverence of a God that has the power of life and death in His hands, your life in His hands, that you honor him and respect Him because He gives you life, because He feeds you, because He is the author of every good thing, because He will never fail to forgive you no matter what you do, He will never give up on you, that is the fear, that is the true fear of God. This other kind of fear of God is a false fear, all of these Christians going out getting people "saved" because they are afraid to go to hell, they have a false message, a completely false message, and the message that they are preaching is of a god, is of another Jesus.

 

I will end this message by giving you an understanding of what this earthquake is, a personal understanding of what this earthquake is and how it is going to happen to you, it is a an internal earthquake brethren, and it is the destruction of your carnal mind.

 

I am going to read to you Judges 16:23-30, "Then the lords of the Philistines gathered them together for to offer a great sacrifice unto Dagon their god", we just talked about a sacrifice right? The sacrifice is Christ, "and to rejoice", the same words, the sacrifice and to rejoice, the same words, "for they said, our god, Dagon has delivered Samson", or Christ "our enemy into our hand", do you hear that? It is the same verse. When the people saw Samson in his humiliated condition, the enemies of God's people, the manifestation of Leviathan in each of us praised their god for they said, our god hath delivered into our hands our enemy. Christ is the enemy, and the destroyer of our country, the destroyer of our carnal mind which slew many of us. Christ has slain many of us, He is the enemy.

 

"And it came to pass, when their hearts were merry", the same word, "and it came to pass when their hearts were merry, that they said, call for Samson," or call for the fallen son, call for the sick son, call for the crippled son, call for the humiliated son, "that he may make us sport," that he should entertain us, that we could laugh at him and rejoice. "And they called for Samson out of the prison house and he made them sport," he gave them reason to be rejoicing and happy, "and they set him between the pillars, and Samson said unto the lad that held him by the hand," that is a type of Christ, Samson said to Christ within him who was young and weak, too weak to deliver him, suffer me, "allow me that I may feel the pillars wherein the house stands, that I may lean upon them." Samson was blind.

 

"And now the house was," now this was a spiritual house, "full of men and women," spiritual powers and principalities, the minds of other people, the mocking of other people, "and all of the lords of the Philistines were there, and there was upon the roof about three thousand men and women, that beheld while Samson made sport."

 

Once, a couple of years ago, when I was in a severe trial and I was being seduced by some wicked person, who thank God failed, I had several dreams where I was being, I was a young child and an alligator hand was leading me onto what would be like a dance floor, and all of those, and all of the lights were on, and I could not, there were all people like a large crowd surrounding the dance floor, laughing and mocking as they watched the whole scene of my seduction. I do not know who these people were, but there are powers and principalities that have spiritual eyes that were watching, but thank God He gave me the victory.

 

"And Samson called unto the Lord and he said, Oh Lord God remember me, I pray thee, and strengthen me, I pray thee, only this once Oh God, that I may be at once avenged of the Philistines for my two eyes. And Samson took hold of the two middle pillars upon which the house stood, and on which it was born up of the one with his right hand and the other with his left, and Samson said, Let me die with the Philistines." I do not even know that Samson physically died, but for us today this is the death of the carnal mind, let my carnal mind die with all of the entities and men, spiritual men and women that are a part of it. "And bowed himself with all his might and the house fell upon the lords and upon all of the people that were therein." The dead which he slew by dying to his carnal mind were more than they which he slew when he was fighting with his carnal mind in his life.

 

Let me show you on the board what happened Samson, if he did die physically then he was just a type of what is to come, but the saint today is going to take the victory over every affliction that Satan has afflicted us with by destroying our carnal minds. I have one more drawing.

 

Drawing #4, I am showing the Sefirot, actually there is an A and a B, on the top half of the board we see Samson leaning his right hand upon Hod and his left hand upon Yesod, I may have that backwards, with the lower Sefirot, the Sefirot that Samson had access to that he collapsed and because he collapsed, the lower Sefirot, the whole building came down. It is the same principle as Nebuchadnezzar's statue, it is the rock that hit the toes that brings down the whole statue, so if you have a problem and you are looking for deliverance, you do not, it is not right thinking for you to think this problem is too high for me, the powers and principalities are too high for me. Even David slew Goliath, you can do it from where you are if you are willing to submit to the Lord, you can do it, and you can bring down those two pillars, and of course the spiritual significance of bringing down those two pillars is that both the left and the right hand columns disappear and as you could see in the bottom of the board which is B, there is no more left column, there is no more Gevurah, Gevurah is now absorbed into Tiferot and completely controlled by goodness, no more Gevurah, and there is no more right column, there is a Keter, a Chokhmah, Chokhmah and Binah are now under Keter, and Binah is God, is the God that we read about in Revelation 21:2.

 

Then the Tiferot and Yesod are the new heavens, Christ Jesus, and Malkhut is the new earth, Revelation 21:1. Xxxx, will you read those two verses for us, 21 and 22?

 

Revelation 21:1-2, "And I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away, and there was no more sea. And I John saw the holy city New Jerusalem coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband."

 

This is the personal experience that every believer must have to be fully saved, if you have had an experience with Jesus Christ, with the Holy Spirit, you have been reconciled to God. If you want to say you are saved, you can say you in the process of being saved, or you are saved at this low level, but you are not fully saved. In order to be fully saved, you have to experience the fullness of the experience that we read about from the beginning of the book of Revelation to the end of the book of Revelation, the opening of the fourth seals is the beginning of the warfare of the Christ mind against the carnal mind, and in chapter 21 is the end of the believer who overcomes. There is only one overcoming and that is the destruction of your carnal mind, as long as your carnal mind is functioning on any level, you are not fully saved. God bless you all, do you have a question? Okay.

 

COMMENT: Pastor Vitale, I never knew before that when Samson had his hands on either one of the pillars and all those enemies, I thought they were real enemies and I thought it was a real temple, but I realize now those enemies were all spirits within him, the enemies.

 

PASTOR VITALE: Well, it might have happened in the natural also, it very well may have happened in the natural, but the bottom line that we need to understand is that there is no way you can be, anybody can be enslaved by other men if they are not first enslaved in their mind. It is impossible to be enslaved by other men if you are not enslaved by your carnal mind first.

 

At the very best we can say with Samson that this happened on two levels, both in the natural and in the spiritual, but he is definitely a type of the experience that the believer must go through to be fully saved. I think we translated this chapter of the book of Judges I believe, and in the King James it says that he went, there is a verse after 30, there is a verse 31 which says that his father buried him or something like that, but when I looked at it in the Interlinear Text, it was very questionable as to whether or not that was a physical manifestation and at the time that I translated it, I felt that Samson continued to live, the way it was appearing in the Interlinear Text.

 

I would never fight with anyone over it, it is not important to me, I mean if someone, if I would find a way to really find out the truth, I would want to know it, but I know that it happened, if it happened in the natural and it happened in the spiritual that is fine, I know that Samson is a type, his experience is a type of an experience that every believer must go through to become fully saved and returned to their first estate, and that I know as the unequivocal truth, and nothing can change that, so I am going to believe that it happened in the natural, I do not know.

 

One of the alternate translation, we translated several chapters concerning Samson, and one of those chapters read, you know lots of time when I do these alternate translations, I bring forth a translation before I really know what it means, I just know that, that is what God is telling me is the right translation, and in one of these chapters that we translated in the book of Judges, Samson was being taken, I guess it was Elohim or Jehovah that took him down to the lower depths, and I really did not quite understand what that was all about, but as I prepared this message came forth out of my preparation for a part three of the message called "Abraham" and "Abraham and Lot", which is associated with the message on "Sodom and Gomorrah", and the notes from my own message is part of what we will do tonight, but I do not think I will be able to finish everything tonight, I found verses that explained an experience that I have had, you know.

 

Lots of my revelation, a good deal of my revelation comes forth because I recognize my personal experience in the Scripture, and I think there were Scriptures that I found in the Zohar that indicated that when God calls you there is a cleansing process that involves going down to a spiritual place lower than you are at the time that you are called, and you have to, and there you are tested to see whether or not you are going to be seduced by the lower realms, do you understand what I said?

 

I know that, that is what happened to me, I know that I went to a lower realm and I was seduced, I was seduced but the Lord brought me back up. If my experience was in the Old Testament, I would have spiritually died and then I would physically died, I would have never taken that victory if the Lord did not have mercy on me. As I was getting this revelation I also saw that Jesus had the same experience, He was tested by Satan.

 

The first time I read in the Interlinear Text, the spirit, it was not the Spirit of God drove Jesus in to the wilderness, I was horrified, also when I was studying for this message yesterday, actually it was early this morning, when I saw this, I was even a little offended and saying, I do not know, I cannot believe that the Lord would send us down to the lower realms, I was severely tested, I mean, if it was not for the mercy of the Lord, I would have never come up. I was severely, severely tested, actually in many points, but one more severe than the other, and it just did not seem right to me, and then the Lord explained to me, that it is Satan who tests us.

 

That is another issue over the years that I had a problem with, that Satan was the one that tests us, but this is the way it works, we are who we are, we are spiritually dead, we are the descendants of the first Adam, and Christ comes into our life and imparts the seed of life to us, and as soon as the seed of life is imparted to us, Satan who is in the same house rises up and says, You are not going to stay here, I am going to knock you off before you get powerful enough to kill me, and that is the testing by Satan.

 

This warfare has been, war has been declared in my personal household, in my emotional and spiritual household, war has been declared, therefore it is Satan that is testing me. Satan has initiated the test, Satan has said, I am not going to lie down and let Christ come in and kill me, and the test is, who is the woman of the household, me the personality, who are you going to cleave unto.

 

It is not really that God comes in and says, now I am going to send you down to a lower realm and give you terrible experiences, that is not what happens. God comes into your life and your own sin rises up and tests, puts forth the test which requires you to choose Christ rather than your carnal mind, do you understand what I am saying? Everybody that is hoping to go on in God, must be tested, and you will go down to lower realms and I am telling you from personal experience, as someone who really floundered out there for a while, that you just keep cleaving to the Lord.

 

10/31/05 Transcribed by RS

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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