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Father I just rebuke ignorance everywhere Lord, God help us, sometimes I am guilty of being ignorant. I just curse that ignorance Lord, and I pray that it should be swallowed up by the Spirit of Christ and the mind of Christ everywhere where your Spirit is honored Lord, and where your Spirit is not honored I pray it should enter in, because I pray for mercy for the whole world Lord, that suffer because of ignorance and because of social structure to meet the needs of people is not in place. We pray for the restoration of the social structure, the godly social structure wherever it has been torn down Lord in Jesus name. We pray that you should be glorified and that your wisdom should be broadcast across the world that everybody should know of the great God and the wisdom that is available through knowledge of Him and His counselors. We just pray Father, that you should be fully restored in this nation, that your works should be revealed and honored, and that the promises of the Scripture should be fulfilled, that every man on the face of the earth should know God. We thank you Father in Jesus name, amen.
I do not know what that was, it could have been personal, it could have been a prayer that is opposing the false spirit, because the spirit of Christmas, it is a false spirit that is out there, it is a spirit that is swallowing up the truth of the Lord Jesus Christ, so I do not know where that came from but is it not wonderful to be able to be influenced by the Spirit.
We will start with Psalm 27 because Xxxx picked that. We will take three verses each. Would you like to start Xxxx, Psalm 27, three verses, I am sorry please read four verses.
A Psalm of David.
1 The LORD is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the LORD is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?
2 When the wicked, even mine enemies and my foes, came upon me to eat up my flesh, they stumbled and fell.
3 Though an host should encamp against me, my heart shall not fear: though war should rise against me, in this will I be confident.
4 One thing have I desired of the LORD, that will I seek after; that I may dwell in the house of the LORD all the days of my life, to behold the beauty of the LORD, and to enquire in his temple.
5 For in the time of trouble he shall hide me in his pavilion: in the secret of his tabernacle shall he hide me; he shall set me up upon a rock.
6 And now shall mine head be lifted up above mine enemies round about me: therefore will I offer in his tabernacle sacrifices of joy; I will sing, yea, I will sing praises unto the LORD.
7 Hear, O LORD, when I cry with my voice: have mercy also upon me, and answer me.
8 When thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I seek.
9 Hide not thy face far from me; put not thy servant away in anger: thou hast been my help; leave me not, neither forsake me, O God of my salvation.
10 When my father and my mother forsake me, then the LORD will take me up.
11 Teach me thy way, O LORD, and lead me in a plain path, because of mine enemies.
12 Deliver me not over unto the will of mine enemies: for false witnesses are risen up against me, and such as breathe out cruelty.
13 I had fainted, unless I had believed to see the goodness of the LORD in the land of the living.
14 Wait on the LORD: be of good courage, and he shall strengthen thine heart: wait, I say, on the LORD. KJV
I wanted to comment on these verses, back to verse one.
A Psalm of David.
1 The LORD is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the LORD is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid? KJV
Another Scripture says if the Lord be for me who can be against me. You cannot fail as long as we are in His will.
2 When the wicked, even mine enemies and my foes, came upon me to eat up my flesh, they stumbled and fell. KJV
That is Satan and Leviathan, the powers and principalities in our own mind and in the minds of the people that love us that do not realize that these powers are operating in there. …to eat up my flesh, that was what I wanted to focus on. ...to eat up my flesh, they stumbled and fell. That Hebrew word translated flesh it means the male sex organ, so who is our spiritual manhood, who is our spiritual male sex organ? Christ Jesus, yes, that mind that is in Christ Jesus. That is our spiritual manhood because I mean just to take it in the natural having a physical male organ does not make you a man it makes you a male, but it does not make you a man, it makes you a male but it does not make you a man. The signs of manhood are wisdom and strength and in particular the wisdom and strength that comes from above, because it is supposed to be God, man, and woman. Today we know that in Christ Jesus there is no male or female and that the person that has the wisdom of God and is directly under God is spiritually male, and we can only be directly under God if God has someone in us to link to. The Lord above is not going to relate to our carnal mind. If Christ is in us, the Lord Jesus will relate to us and Christ Jesus and wisdom will be formed in us, and we are spiritually male. It is that mind that is in Christ Jesus that is our manhood.
What is being said here in verse 2 is that the wicked, even mine enemies, Satan, Leviathan, and Cain, both in my mind and in the mind of people that I love and trust, and people who I do not love and trust, Satan, Leviathan, and Cain in people, and in me, are my enemies. They came upon me and their intention was to eat up my flesh, their intention was to consume my spiritual manhood. My spiritual manhood is the wisdom of Christ Jesus, so they came to change my mind; they came to change me from the strength of mind which is the righteousness which is of the fourth process of Christ Jesus and bring me into their thought process.
They came to consume my flesh and leave me without a penis, which makes me a spiritual female, nothing there.
When they came to do that, they came to tear down my strength of will to continue to believe in the righteous rational mind or the thoughts that the righteous rational mind of Christ was giving me, when they came to do that, they stumbled and they fell. What does that mean? Everybody who is trying to change my mind has to fall down and skin their knees and get physically hurt, absolutely not. What does that mean, somebody what does that mean?
They did not succeed but what happened to them? We know they failed, they could not change my righteous belief in this situation that I am anchored in Jesus Christ, I believe I believe the truth, I have got a true evaluation in God’s mind in this situation, they could not make me waiver, so they failed but what happened to them? Did God kill them? They fell down, did God kill them? Are they in hell now? Are they being burned? What happened to them?
COMMENT: They fell out of their position to hurt.
PASTOR VITALE: Okay, so what condition are they in now? What do they think now?
COMMENT: They lost, they are defeated.
PASTOR VITALE: They now think what Christ thinks. It is not enough for God, it is not enough for God to say to people who are wrongly trying to change my mind, you failed you could not do it; the Lord is not satisfied with that. The one who is in error has to become to the knowledge of the truth, for the Lord to be fully satisfied, He loves everybody, He is correcting wrong everywhere.
You try to correct someone who is truly in Christ and your judgment of the sowing and reaping judgment is that you shall be corrected. You reap what you sow. If you try to change the mind of the son of God, you do not get a flat tire. If you try to change the mind of the son of God, you do not have a financial loss, if you try to change the mind of the son of God, the son of God changes your mind.
God is just. The penalty suits the crime. The answer is yes, but you have to clarify your definition of repentance. Everybody may not understand this but repentance is a change of mind. If someone comes determined that they are right, and the other person is wrong, and they fail to change the mind of the person who is in Christ, their mind, that Leviathan mind has to be broken, everything is a war. When you fail to change Christ, your mind will be broken and the Lord will move in there and convict you with the truth. Technically that is the repentance. Even now I understand now that it is not even over, if they pass out of this body because this physical body is not the real man.
The change of mind could come through their children or in a future generation. Judgment good and bad takes place in future generations because it is the spiritual man that is judged, and we and our offspring, we are really all one spiritual man. We have to think beyond the narrow borders of our mind right here. We are challenged to think globally. I know that one of the things that I am preaching is that what is going on in this country today where Christianity is being attacked and really consumed, see the male organ of Christ Jesus is being consumed in this country today and when it is consumed it does not disappear, it becomes a female organ, that is the whole principle of the male organ being external and the female organ being internal, that is the principle, when you castrate the man, you have a woman.
In the natural that does not take place, if you cut off the male organ, that human being is now just asexual, but spiritually speaking, if you cut off the manhood, you have a woman. This is nothing to do with physical women, it is a spiritual principle. Physical women can be spiritual men. The whole concept of being female is weak. Manhood is strong and we are talking about a weak mind or strong mind.
You break the power of that strong mind, and you are left with a weak mind. The person still exists but they were a man and now they are a spiritual woman. This concept of consuming the male organ can exist on an individual level, can exists on a national level, it can exist on a family level. The Lord eventually has to be proven to prevail, but now we are talking about His spiritual truth, we are not talking about the petty doctrine of some misguided born again Christian trying to bang someone over the head with a Bible; that is not what we are talking about, we are talking about righteousness. Remember Elijah? He was sitting on the top of the mountain, I do not remember which king went after him, I do not remember if it was Ahab or not. It says Elijah ascended into a high mountain, I do not think it was Ahab. It was a king that I am pretty sure Elijah told him he was going to die.
If I am not mistaken, it was the king who was diseased in his feet and he was going to, let me see if I can find this, it’s in 2 Kings. He was going to a pagan god to find out whether he would live or not, it was Ahaziah, I thought it was Ahaziah but I did not say it. Ahaziah fell down through a lattice in his upper chamber that was in Samaria; and he was sick and he sent messengers and said to them, go and inquire of Beelzebub the god of Ekron whether I shall recover from this disease.
The Lord said to Elijah, go intervene with that messenger, and send this messenger back to Ahaziah with this message, but the angel of the Lord said to Elijah, the Tishbite, Arise and go up to meet the messenger of the king of Samaria and say unto them, is it not because there is a God in Israel that you go to inquire at Beelzebub the god of Ekron? Why are not asking me if you will recover?
Therefore thus saith the Lord, thou shalt not come down from that bed on which thou art gone up but you are surely going to die. The messenger went back to the king and gave him the message. Ahaziah sent an army, a captain of 50. Do we have any military people here? He sent a captain of this 50 to arrest Elijah and execute him because Elijah pronounced death upon him, and the Bible says Elijah ascended into a high mountain and he refused to come down.
It was the will of king Ahaziah that Elijah would come down and humble himself before king Ahaziah and say, I am sorry I was wrong, you will surely live. It became a battle of wills, would Elijah’s word come to pass or would Ahaziah’s hope of healing through Beelzebub prevail. The Bible does not say it but when Ahaziah sent those soldiers after Elijah, what he wanted, the Bible says, the captain said, oh Elijah come down. It was not a physical hell, what the captain was saying to Elijah was, admit that you were wrong, admit to me God never told you to say that to me. God does not talk to you, who do you think you are?
God does not talk to you. God did not give you that message for me. You are talking out of your own mind and your own heart and your own will. That is what the soldier meant, that he was saying to him take it back, take back what you said, do not continue to say God told you to say that. Do not continue to teach in that name, how dare you say God speaks through you, how dare you say God told you to say that, who do you think you are? You are just a phony and a false teacher, and a liar and a deceiver. Elijah said, no, God told me to say that, and I will not condemn, I will not change my mind, I will not let you consume my male organ, God sent me and God will sustain me, and I am not afraid of you.
The Scripture says fire came down from heaven and destroyed the captain and the 50. Do you think that 50 men died? I do not know maybe they did, but I would much rather choose to believe that they lost their boldness and they scattered. Fire came down and destroyed their will to overtake Elijah and they went back to the king and said, you know he defeated us, however it played out in the material world, we failed on the pain of death, we threatened him with death and torture and everything, he was not afraid of us at all, he still insists Ahaziah you are going to die, we failed to change his mind.
King Ahaziah did not want to, I may have said earlier he wanted to execute him and now I have to take that back if that is what I said, king Ahaziah did not want Elijah to do, certainly not before he changed his mind. He wanted Elijah to take the curse off of him. Remember Simon the sorcerer? Who was it Peter or Paul, who put that curse on him? It was Paul. Do you remember what the curse was? The curse was you have prophesied out of another spirit, and you shall now be blind, and you feel around in the darkness.
Simon the sorcerer said what, does anybody know what he said? Did he say, well I am sorry, please do not that to me? What did he say? He said, take it back, take it back. The way the King James reads, Simon the sorcerer really submitted to Paul and said, oh please do not say that about me. I do not think so. I do not think that is the way is played out. I think Simon the sorcerer, all of Israel was following after that man; I think he said to Paul, you take that back! It is going back on you. It is going to happen to you. It is not going to happen to me, who do you think you are anyway, telling me that you pronounced a judgment on me in the name of the Lord, who do you think you are anyway? That is what I think happened. The soldiers went back to Ahaziah and they said we threatened him with everything and he would not change his mind, what do you want us to do? We come back defeated in our spirit. We failed to change the man’s mind. Maybe they even tried to tie him up and he disappeared in the midst, I do not know. Do you know there is more left out of this book than is in here? Why did they not tie him up and torture him? Maybe he disappeared in the midst of them. The king sent another company, another captain with a 50, and they said, you take that back! You take that back or we are going to hurt you! Maybe Elijah laughed on them, I do not know disappeared, it would not be the first time he disappeared right? Are we not told that Elijah had the ability to disappear? We are told that in the Scripture right?
Elijah defeated the second captain and his 50, he broke their will power, maybe he even scared them, maybe Elijah came back at them and said, no, I will not come down; and you better run for your life before the God of Israel smites you good, right along with your king.
He said something that made them flee. He not only would not come down he broke their will which was directed to break the will of Elijah and they departed from them. The Scripture says fire came down from heaven and consumed them. I do not believe the man died, I really do not. This is a spiritual book. Then the third captain came with his company of 50, and he came with a whole different attitude, and said Elijah the king sent me but please do not hurt me. Please do not hurt me. The king is really upset that you told him he is going to die and he wants to talk with you. The first captain came and threatened you, and said you better come with my or I am going to hurt you. The second captain came and said, you better come with me or I am going to really hurt you, and I saw what you did to them. They were brave men and now they are weak like women, they do not have the guts to pick up the sword, you broke their will, your broke their spiritual manhood, please do not do that to me, the king wants to talk to you, would you please come with me to talk to the king?
The Lord spoke to Elijah and said, it is okay to go. Elijah went, and he went to the king, and told him to his face, because you have sought the god of Ekron, Beelzebub, rather than me, you shall not come down off of that bed, you shall not recover but you shall surely die, the king died.
That male mind was not consumed. The king and 150 men, there captains, all that came forth is that all of the kings men could not break that male mind is Elijah, but Elijah broke that male mind in all of those soldiers and his word came to pass, their leader died. That is what the Scripture is talking about Psalm 27, when it says my enemies came to me and tried to consume my flesh, but they failed, their strength became like water. The power in which they approached me dissolved into a puddle.
What happens when our strength dissolves, what emotion usually replaces strength that has gone up in smoke? Fear, absolutely, fear, strength gone up in smoke becomes fear. That third captain came with fear, and said, please do not break my manhood. Once your spiritual manhood is broken, short of a miracle you cannot get it back, the spiritual manhood was broken, over a lot of black people that were brought here as slaves, and that spiritual breaking is still apparent in many, many black people, their flesh was consumed and they have not been restored yet, many of them, and they do not even know what is wrong with them, they were spiritually consumed, their manhood was consumed. We were looking in Psalm 27, does anyone have a question or a comment?
COMMENT: I think that when he was in the mountain, that represented being in Christ and he was getting more and more strength.
PASTOR VITALE: Right, I agree with you, excellent observation, and it says here that they stumbled and they fell. Who did they stumble over? Who is the stumbling stone? Christ, they stumbled over Christ. What does that mean? It means these captives who came to bring him back and put him on his knees before king Ahaziah, they did not understand that he was a manifestation of Christ. They stumbled over him; they thought that he was someone who was truly cursing the king. They did not recognize that he was God’s spokesperson.
Do you know that people curse God’s spokespersons all of the day long because they stumble over the stumbling stone within us, they cannot see that we are truly of God, and they curse us to their own destruction? Jesus says do good to your enemies, and be kind to those who curse you, God is your vengeance, God will recompense, let it go. They are just ignorant. What are you going to do, go around and kill everybody, killing everybody?
When Jesus was rejected, at one point his disciples wanted to call down fire from heaven like Elijah did. I bet you, you know those disciples were naïve, Jesus’ disciples were not sophisticated. He started out with some people that did not know very much at all. I think they read the Scripture in the Old Testament and they, Jesus’ disciples really wanted to kill the Pharisees who were insulting Jesus. Jesus said to them, you know not what spirit you are of, and what is not written in the book is that Jesus followed that up by saying, you do not know what spirit you are, Elijah did not kill those men, and he just gave them an exhortation like I just gave you, it was spiritual fire that destroyed the power of their pride.
You want to physically kill the Pharisees. Elijah did not physically kill anybody. It is a spiritual war. Sometimes people die. I feel to go into that right now but I have talked to you about that, sometimes people die because the wickedness in them is so immovable that they die and the Lord works with their offspring.
Look at what happened with Nabel who was so wicked towards David, and Nabel’s wife interceded for him, and then Nabel died and Abigail prevailed and married David and the whole I believe they were Carmelites if I am not mistaken prospered. Sometimes people die and the Lord deals with the successor, wife or son. You have to realize that families are one soul, there are group souls. Sometimes a person dies here or there. The message is just glorious. We are temporary formations of the creation of God. We are temporary formations of the creation of God.
If we fail, He smashes us and remolds the clay, is that not what the prophet said?! How come nobody understands it? It is all through the book. Nobody reads the book, it is easier to believe what they would like to believe, it easier to believe something that makes them feel good, and important. We fail, we get smashed and reformed. That is what the book says; that is what my book says. You must have a different book.
They stumbled over the stumbling stone and they fell down from their high place because these guards were in a high place in Leviathan, they loss their spiritual power. It does not say they got killed, it says fire came down from heaven and consumed them; fire came down from heaven and consumed their carnal mind as a sacrifice to the living God.
Every time we have a decision to make and we choose Christ, we sacrifice Leviathan, spiritual fire comes down, and sacrifices Leviathan and every time we choose to obey Leviathan, spiritual fire comes down, and consumes Christ in us. We offer up spiritual sacrifices all of the day long with our mind.
3 Though an host should encamp against me, my heart shall not fear: though war should rise against me, in this will I be confident.
4 One thing have I desired of the LORD, that will I seek after; that I may dwell in the house of the LORD all the days of my life, to behold the beauty of the LORD, and to enquire in his temple. KJV
That is the attitude that protects you who believe in the Lord. …to behold the beauty of the Lord. Remember beauty is Tiferet, another name for Jehovah. That is talking about the balance, Jehovah is the balance of all of the human attributes, negative and positive, interwoven together and balanced into a formation that acknowledges and worships God.
5 For in the time of trouble he shall hide me in his pavilion: in the secret of his tabernacle shall he hide me; he shall set me up upon a rock. KJV
From the time of trouble He shall hide me in his pavilion which is His mind, and He shall set me upon a rock.
6 And now shall mine head be lifted up above mine enemies round about me: therefore will I offer in his tabernacle sacrifices of joy; I will sing, yea, I will sing praises unto the LORD. KJV
My head shall be lifted up above my enemies, I shall ascend into a high level of God, and I will offer in His tabernacle sacrifices of joy. The way we are joyous is by sacrificing Leviathan. Pride causes pain, brethren, pain causes pain, prides causes fear, pride causes confusion, pride is our biggest, it is the enemy of the believer. People that are trying to live right, our pride will destroy us. The sacrifice of joy; or the sacrifice that produces joy is when we defeat Leviathan in ourselves, and then joy rises as Christ takes the victory. Are there any questions or comments on this Psalm?
14 Wait on the LORD: be of good courage, and he shall strengthen thine heart: wait, I say, on the LORD. KJV
The last verse, you know that is not such an easy thing to do. Do you know what I found out the other day which absolutely amazed me, the Lord never ceases to amaze me, concerning David and Bathsheba, I was so surprised to find out that out of all the wives who produced all of the sons that king David had, the son that was picked by God to succeed David was the son that was given to him by Bathsheba. Bathsheba is the woman that David saw on the rooftop, she was a married woman, he not only took her from her husband, but had her husband killed. Did you know that her husband Uriah was one of David’s 37 personal guards? Did you know that? There were 37 men who were in David’s personal guards, there were two sets of three which were the mightiest warriors and then there were 30 underneath them, all military heroes. Uriah was the last one named, he knew him personally, and he killed him.
I have thought about this for so long, how in the world was Solomon chosen to be king, coming out of this background? The only conclusion that I could come to is that it was the will of God that David and Bathsheba should get together because you know; God is the business of eugenics. Did you know that? That is hard for people to deal with, but God is in the business of eugenics, males and females to mate, he picks out males and females to mate to bring forth His choice people in the earth, He does.
That does not make you feel very good now does it, but He does. It was determined that Bathsheba and David would come together and produce king Solomon the wisest man the world has ever known until Jesus appeared, it is eugenics brethren.
I went before the Lord and I said, wow Lord, I do not understand how you know you could have been angry at David, you know. Of course the child of the adultery died, how was it Solomon, it just could not make any sense to me at all, and I said, if in fact this was to be, why was Bathsheba married, you know. There is a Scripture that says the Lord was not pleased with what David did to Uriah, the Lord was not pleased with that, but I cannot find any place where it says the Lord was not pleased with the adultery, although yes, there is a place that says that, that the prophet Nathan went to David and said to him, you have all of these wives and concubines and this man had one wife and you took what belonged to him.
Here is the question, I had it wrong a minute ago, if David, you know if David was rebuked by God through Nathan for taking Uriah’s one little ewe lamb, his wife, and certainly for killing a man, you know, how could we also say that God was involved in eugenics and Bathsheba were meant to be together. Does that combination make no sense at all? Does that not make any sense at all? I want to put that on the board for you.
We are taking a look at a spiritual mystery today. Secular people would tell you this is a complete contradiction in the Scripture. Brethren there are no contradictions in the Scripture. The problem is with the carnal mind that does not understand. It is the same principle with me, if you study with me, if you study with me and you think I do not know what I am doing, you do not understand what I am doing. We do not understand what God was doing.
These are the three truths that we have to reconcile. 1. David’s marriage to Bathsheba was ordained by God. We have to draw that conclusion because the proof is that Solomon their son inherited David’s thrown out of all of David’s sons. 2. David and Bathsheba committed adultery, it is in the Scripture; there is no question about it. 3. David murdered Uriah, Bathsheba’s husband. How could something good come out of this, how could this combination of events produce the wisest man ever born until Jesus, King Solomon the anointed of God ruler over the united kingdom of Israel and the surrounding nations, the richest man in the world.
Here are our two options, crime pays, or it was God’s will that they should be together. Everybody vote, does anything think crime pays? Crime does not pay, so it was God’s will. If it was God’s will that they should be together, why did the Lord chasten David by the word of the prophet Nathan? Why was David chastened if it was God’s will? This is a mystery, this is mind breaker. The carnal mind will never figure this out. It was the Lord’s will that they should be together. I want to suggest to you that Uriah would have died, if David did not take matters into his own hands. I want to suggest to you that God is into eugenics and it was ordained that these two should marry and produce the son, Solomon who was destined to be the wisest richest man in the world, and somehow you see I am going to say something went wrong and I can hear somebody screaming at me, what do you mean something went wrong? Either God is in it or God is not in it.
Look I am going to try to explain this to you one more time, heaven rules, the spiritual realm rules, the commandment goes forth from the spiritual realm, David and Bathsheba are going to marry and produce the son who will be the wisest man that every lived at that time and until Jesus was born
The commandment goes forth and it comes into this world down here and how do I say this, the Lord is not up there pulling strings on the people down here. Sometimes people are disobedient, sometimes people do not understand, sometimes they just screw up, sometimes the forces of darkness interfere, is God not powerful enough to stop the forces of darkness from interfering? Brethren, this is the serpent’s world. We are in a criminal colony here, this is Satan’s territory under the auspices of the serpent. It is their town.
Of course God can, the Lord can override anything that happens here that He wants to, but He does not make a habit of overriding what happens down here. He moves to bring it to pass and if it does not work out over here, he just does it over there. He is not in the business of beating up Satan to accomplish His will because this whole world is the Lord’s penal colony, and Satan is the warden, so what is the Lord going to gain by beating up Satan, the Lord works within the existing structure.
He works within the existing structure. That is why if you are threatened physically, you go to the police, you do not expect lightning from heaven, you go to the police and you expect God to move through existing authorities, He works through the structure. The only time the Lord goes beyond the existing structure that He set up is when the structure is failing and there is no other way or opportunity to function through existing structure He will go beyond the existing structure.
That is why most people get healed only after they are pronounced hopeless, most people, because otherwise he will heal through the doctors for the average Christian, unless you have a supernatural walk with the Lord where He has a covenant with you, He has made a covenant with you that He is going to keep your health, that is a different story.
The average Christian today goes to the doctor for healing. You will have two people with cancer, one lives and one dies, why does one live and one die? The Lord is moving through the structure. The surgery helps one person and it does not help another person. The medicine helps one person and it does not help another person. Why? It is not the medicine healing you anyway. One is given unto death and one is given unto life. Are we not told Hezekiah was given unto death and he petitioned the Lord and the Lord said, Okay, 15 more years and he sent the prophet to get a what? He sent him to get a bunch of figs and he put it on the boil and Hezekiah was healed. He could have put figs from morning until night on that boil and he would not have been healed if the Lord did not say, Okay, 15 more years, then the medicine works.
He moves through the structure. It was ordained that Bathsheba and David would marry and produce Solomon but somehow down here under the sea where the Lord has chosen to not exercise puppeteer control, He has chosen not to do that, the parents of Bathsheba married her before the opportunity arose, before David realized that he was attracted to her, before the attraction that was sent upon David to direct him to the woman manifested in his mind, anything, you could make up any reason you want to, she was married to Uriah, it was a mistake.
Does God make mistakes? No, His will, will be worked out in this imperfect world which is ruled by the serpent’s mind. In this particular case, it was ordained that it would be this woman and this man, so Uriah had to die. He was sacrificed, he had to die, but you know you have to understand that reincarnation is real, so the man died. He died an honorable death, and whoever the real man was he incarnated again and I am sure was blessed by God.
Wake up everybody; let us grow up shall we? The man had to die. He came into this earth, he was born into this earth for a purpose, everybody is born for a purpose, and whatever that purpose was I do not know but it was standing the way of a higher purpose, and there was no divorce; that was unheard of, the man had to die. He died an honorable death in battle; he would have died whether David did anything or not.
Most people come into this world, I have been teaching you this for a long time, they come into this world with a writing, a potential, and they can do less than their potential, and they can do more than their potential, everybody comes into this world with a potential, and sometimes jobs that need to be done can be available to more than one person.
Let us say somebody is called to write an alternate translation Bible, maybe there are 10 or 20 people in a generation who are capable of doing that, who were born with the ability to be trained to do that, and everybody tries, and one person succeeds. Sometimes someone is born into this world with an assignment and it is preordained that this baby, this is not 20 people whoever makes it, but this baby is going to do it, and that is what happened with Jesus. It was this baby, no possibility that this baby would fail, He was the one.
Why is it one way one time and another way another time? I do not know, when you find out let me know, I want the answers to all of these questions, I want to know everything. Under what circumstances are 20 people are born with the potential and whoever makes it great, and on some circumstances no, it has to be that woman and that man. I do not know, I would like to know but it was that woman and it was that man. Somehow she was married off before David got to her, so Uriah had to die.
Therefore the adultery is not mentioned, except the sin of the adultery was of the child that died, of the child of the adultery died, because the child of adultery cannot be a king, cannot merit the throne because adultery brings a curse on the child that is born, so the child of the adultery died, and Uriah died.
Two people were sacrificed so that the precursor of Christ Jesus could appear in the earth first in the natural and then in the spiritual, it had to happen in the natural. Solomon a king had to be born with the potential to receive the extent of the wisdom that Solomon received, with the potential to rule over the United Kingdom.
Some people God could work with them for 200 years and they are not going to have the potential to rule the government like that.
Solomon was born with that potential to rule, to be wise and to honor God, unfortunately he fell away at the end. It was him, he was ordained to be born from Bathsheba’s egg and David’s sperm, and Uriah got in the way, somebody goofed. Who goofed? I do not know, did David see her a year before she got married and it did not click in his brain, or did the Lord tell Bathsheba’s parents, do not marry her to Uriah, I have somebody else. Did the Lord tell Bathsheba’s parents she is going to marry King David, hold off do not marry her to Uriah and Bathsheba’s parents said, or Bathsheba’s father said to the mother, are you crazy dear, I know she is our daughter but I do not believe the Lord told you she is destined to marry King David, I have a husband for her, Uriah, I override you, how do I know what happened; something stupid like that, something when I say stupid, something carnal like that, anything that denies the word of God is stupid, but that is not a good word, I should not have used it.
Some carnal thinking interfered with what overrode and buried the purpose of God. So You say, why did Uriah die in the battle before King David spied Bathsheba, why did it have to play out like this, why did they have to in adultery? Did we not have plenty of time for Uriah to die in the battle why the rush, rush?
The sages say that the marriage was not consummated, that is interesting is it not? Yes she was married but the marriage was not consummated. That was why there was the rush, rush. If it did not matter if the marriage was consummated between Uriah and Bathsheba, why could things not just take time to play out, why did it have to be now? The sages say that the marriage was not consummated, and the Scripture says that, I never saw it that way, the Scripture says that David said to Uriah, after Bathsheba was pregnant, found out that she was pregnant, that David said to Uriah, come from the battlefield, and sleep with your wife, if those are not the words it is old English, but that is what the meaning is, come home from the battlefield and sleep with your wife.
I thought David just wanted him to think it was his child, but according to the sages it was more than that, and of course as we know Uriah refused to do it. He said my fellow soldiers are out there getting killed and I am not going to be sleeping with my wife while they are out there getting killed. The sages say the marriage was not consummated at all, interesting huh?
COMMENT: They did not have any children previous to that.
PASTOR VITALE: Not that we know of, not that we know of. There is nothing spoken about it but that does not mean anything, that is interesting huh? Yes it is very interesting. The sages also say that in that time of history, when a man went off to war, he left his wife with a bill of divorcement in case he did not come back, so she had the bill of divorcement. I do not know, I have not gotten my witness to this yet but that is what they say, that technically David did not commit the adultery, because she had the bill of divorcement that she could implement at any time. I do not know about that, but that is what they say.
I am inclined to go along with that though that the marriage was not consummated. The way the Scripture reads is that David was up on the roof and that he saw this beautiful woman, I do not really know that he was up on a physical roof, he may have been in a high spiritual place and he saw the woman, and he found out that she lived on the other side of town or maybe he even knew who she was and he was in this high spiritual place like Peter was when he saw the vision of the sheet, and he saw, maybe he even got the whole message from the Lord.
I have to be with this woman because she is going to produce the son that is going to be my heir, maybe he went to get her because he knew the whole thing, and that was why he was willing to take her and he was willing to kill her husband. What was his crime? His crime was that God, let us just hypothetically say, the Lord gave him that whole message in a vision when he was praying and he went out and did it under his kingly authority instead of waiting for the Lord to bring it to pass.
If he would have waited for the Lord to bring it to pass, Uriah would have gone off to battle, he would have been killed and then David would have just gone and collected the woman, but he could not wait, he had to go running there as soon as he saw her face in the vision.
Is that not interesting? I want to tell you…
COMMENT: Do we not do that all of the time?
PASTOR VITALE: We do that all of the time, we are absolutely guilty, absolutely guilty of bringing things to pass in our own strength.
COMMENT: It is amazing that Uriah was one of his friends, how come he did not know that Uriah was married to this beautiful woman?
PASTOR VITALE: He knew that is why he killed him. It was one of his body guards. I am inclined to believe that the Lord told him in prayer, you are going to marry this woman and she is going to produce your heir, and that is what happened, he just did not wait for the Lord to do it, he went out and did it himself therefore became guilty, although the sages say not guilty of adultery, I do not know about that, but certainly guilty of murder, because he could not understand that God would take care of it. That is very interesting.
I want to tell you this Scripture when you start getting into the really deep stuff of it, it is just fascinating what is in there, the church world does not know what they are missing, but I do not think you could get this deep with the carnal mind, I really do not. I really think you can only go this deep with the mind of Christ, I think that a carnal minded Christian would really flip out if they heard this.
If you are logical, you know put your emotions aside, you have to ask yourself how can this situation; adultery, death, you know, a member of your body guard, betrayal, intrigue, scheming, sending Joab to put him up on the front line so he will get killed. How could this produce the heir to the throne of the United Kingdom? There has to be something that we do not understand or that our carnal mind cannot even conceive of. I want to tell you that I believe that it was God’s will and that Uriah would have died anyway. I also believe the marriage was not consummated, I do not know about the bill of divorcement thing.
COMMENT: He must have realized that he sinned because it took about a year before he went into real repentance and that is how we got the 51st Psalm.
PASTOR VITALE: Oh, okay, if you say so, something I do not know that is very possible, if that is what you say, it took about a year?
COMMENT: Yeah, as I remember reading it. That Psalm 51st Psalm is such a Psalm of repentance which is why people remember it over the centuries.
PASTOR VITALE: Right, that is what the Scripture says about David, he was human just like the rest of us, he was a great sinner, I have a message on that, David was a great sinner, he did a lot of bad things, but he always repented. He always repented.
COMMENT: He had a heart after God.
PASTOR VITALE: He had his heart was after God which brings forth repentance. You could be someone who lives an exemplary life and never do one thing wrong, your whole life, your heart can be hardened in pride with no repentance found in you, and the Lord goes after the adulterer and receives the adulterer before He receives you.
COMMENT: Sheila, we can relate to that because it took over a year before he could come to that deep repentance, we have done the same thing.
PASTOR VITALE: Absolutely, we are all sinners, the only way out is repentance, the only hope for anybody is to humble ourselves before God, admit what He shows us we have done wrong, and ask Him to help us.
COMMENT: I can really relate to that waiting on the Lord, you know, I can see that, it is so true, and Solomon was preordained to be king, and David you know went ahead of it, went ahead and did like we all do, we want to have the thing happen, you know. Even for the fact that he brought him back home and he was doing all of these things to make things happen.
PASTOR VITALE: Yes, all of the manipulation and coercion and scheming.
COMMENT: And he did not even realize that the marriage was not consummated.
PASTOR VITALE: No, he knew that, he had to know the marriage was not consummated. You just said something that just clicked in my brain, if the marriage was consummated then he would not be worried to bring Uriah home, so I guess that is the reasoning right there, since he was scheming to bring Uriah home, Uriah obviously did not sleep with his wife before he left. The guy would not do it, he got a guy with scruples, he would not do it right? Look at this man of scruples; he was the one that is dying, the adulterer, the manipulation, and the schemer and the conniver is the one that is the king over the United Kingdom.
It does not make any sense to people, you know it does not make any sense to people but God is looking for the person who will submit to God, do what God tells you and when He shows you that you did something wrong, repent, that is what He is looking for, and then every other mess up that you do, He forgives you. That is what it means that a person has a heart after God.
Sometimes we get overtaken in our carnality but if our heart is truly panting after Him to be His expression on the earth, He forgives us, because He wants to forgive us, He is looking for people to express Himself through. I never forget the day when Win Worley came into Gospel Revivals, and told us all, can you imagine we are what God to work with, is that the most amazing thing you ever heard of you know. There he was 400 pounds, and he comes out on the stage and says, well I did not expect you to look like that either. He was a character. Anyway, does anybody else have something to day? Okay.
03/26/11 Transcribed by RLR