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PASTOR VITALE: Hello XXXXXX

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XXXXXXXX:  Hello Again

About Christ, some identify Him with Tiferet, as Tiferet corresponds to the Bodhi or intuitional plane/world of Theosophy, where, they say, lies the Christ Consciousness, or the Christ in us.

PASTOR VITALE: “THE CHRIST CONSCIOUSNESS” AND “THE CHRIST IN US” ARE 2 DIFFERENT ENTITIES.

“THE CHRIST CONSCIOUSNESS” IS THE “GOOD” SIDE OF THE RESIDUE, OR SPARK , OF ADAM (WHO FELL UNDER THE POWER OF THE SERPENT AND DIED) IN MORTAL (FALLEN) HUMANITY.

“THE CHRIST IN US” IS THE SPERMA (BLOOD) OF THE GLORIFIED JESUS CHRIST (THAT IS SPRINKLING UPON HUMANITY TODAY) GRAFTED TO ABEL, THE GOOD SIDE OF THE RESIDUE OF FALLEN ADAM.

Acts 2:1, And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams: KJV

XXXXXXXX: That may be true, but then I remember that in the Scripture Jesus says: I’m the morning star”. Well, the morning star is Mercury, and Mercury is associated with the sefira of Hod.

The sefira of Hod might be what the Theosophists call the inferior manas” or lower mind-body of the manasic plane.

This “inferior manas”, according to Gnostics, is the demiurge, or the devil in us,

PASTOR VITALE: CAIN IS THE EVIL SIDE, AND ABEL IS THE GOOD SIDE, OF ADAM’S RESIDUE IN THE MORTAL PERSONALITY. THE TWO ARE, COLLECTIVELY, CALLED “THE FIERY SERPENT,”

(SERAPHIMS) WHEN CAIN IS COVERING ABEL, WHO LIES SPIRITUALLY DEAD UNDER CAIN’S GROUND, AND “CHRIST IN YOU” WHEN THE SPERMA OF THE LORD JESUS IS GRAFTED TO ABEL AND THE TWO, COLLECTIVELY, COVER CAIN.

THE PERSONALITY (CAIN & ABEL) THAT AGREES WITH THE CARNAL MIND WHICH RULES THROUGH FALLEN HUMANITY IS CALLED “THE DEVIL” THE PERSONALITY (ABEL & CAIN) THAT AGREES WITH CHRIST, IS CALLED “THE SON OF GOD.”

XXXXXXXX:  the part of us that, motivated by emotional impulses (astral) goes after physical pleasure and falls into the physical world,

PASTOR VITALE: THIS IS TRUE OF CAIN, THE MORTAL PERSONALITY THAT IS INFLUENCED AND MANIPULATED BY SATAN, THE UNCONSCIOUS PART OF THE CARNAL MIND, AND LEVIATHAN, THE SUBCONSCIOUS PART OF THE CARNAL MIND.

XXXXXXXX: as in the Gnostic myth of Sophia, when she, eluded by the Self-centered (demiurge(, falls into the astral and then into the physical,

PASTOR VITALE: THIS IS AN ACCOUNT OF ADAM’S FALL.

XXXXXXXX: persecuted by the demiurge demon-sons (astral demons). Then Sophia performs a series of repentances, and at the 13th repentance-prayer, she is guided by the Archangel Michael into the higher manas, out of the reach of the demiurge. Coincidentally, when Sophia finally escapes from the demiurge, is when Christ ascends up to heaven!

PASTOR VITALE: REPENTANCE, AS AN INTELLECTUAL OR EMOTIONAL EXERCISE, WILL NEVER RESULT IN ASCENSION TO THE HEART CENTER (TIFERET/HEART OF ZE’IR ANPIN, WHO IS “HEAVEN”).

THE MYSTERY OF SALVATION LIES IN THE SUBSTITUTIONARY WORK OF THE LORD JESUS.

THE DROP OF HIS BLOOD (SPERMA) THAT GRAFTS TO ABEL TO FORM CHRIST IN THE INDIVIDUAL, BECOMES THE CORNERSTONE OF “THE NEW MAN,” WHICH IS “CHRIST IN YOU.”

CHRIST WAGES A WARFARE AGAINST THE CARNAL MIND OF “THE OLD MAN,” BY BOILING SATAN (WHOSE SYMBOL IS “THE SEA.”). CHRIST (WHO IS AN INCARNATION OF MICHAEL, THE ARCHANGEL) ABSORBS SATAN’S DISTILLED WATERS AND RISES INTO THE HEART CENTER (TIFERET).

SO, WE SEE THAT CHRIST IS THE "MORNING STAR" IN HIS INFANCY, AND THE “BRIGHT STAR” (REV 22:16) IN HIS ASCENDENCY (MATURITY).

THE ASCENDED CHRIST IN THE INDIVIDUAL (TIFERET) THEN MARRIES THE GLORIFIED JESUS CHRIST (BINAH), AND THE SPIRITUAL CIRCULATION WHICH PRODUCES IMMORTALITY IN THE EARTH (MALCHUT) IS RE-ESTABLISHED BETWEEN THE PERSONALITY AND THE UPPER TRIAD THROUGH CHRIST JESUS (TIFERET), THE MEDIATOR.

BUT FOR ALL OF THE ABOVE TO BE ACCOMPLISHED, THE PERSONALITY MUST SUBMIT TO THE EXPOSURE OF HIS SIN NATURE, AND ACKNOWLEDGE THAT HE IS THE DESCENDANT OF FALLEN ADAM, WHOSE PUNISHMENT IS TO BE BONDED TO SATAN AND LEVIATHAN FOR THE DURATION OF THIS DIVIDED AGE.

THE PERSONALITY MUST ALSO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THE ONLY WAY OUT OF HELL, WHICH IS THE CONDITION OF OUR CONSCIOUSNESS BEING GRAFTED TO THE PHYSICAL BODY AND ITS ENVIRONMENT, WHICH IS THIS WORLD SYSTEM (CURSED IS EVERY MAN THAT HANGETH ON A TREE), IS THROUGH THE EXCHANGE OF OUR FALLEN NATURE (WHICH CAN NEVER HEAL ITSELF – THROUGH THE PERFORMANCE OF THE MITZVAH, OR OTHERWISE), FOR THE RIGHTEOUS NATURE OF JESUS, THE CHRIST.

JESUS IS THE ONLY HUMAN, BORN OF A WOMAN, WHO BECAME STRONG ENOUGH TO OVERTHROW HIS FALLEN SOUL (THAT HE INHERITED FROM MARY), AFTER HE BONDED TO THE ASPECT OF THE GLORIFIED ELIJAH, WHO INCARNATED IN JESUS, ALONG WITH THE MORTAL SOUL THAT JESUS RECEIVED FROM MARY.

YES, IT IS TRUE THAT JESUS OF NAZARETH ACCOMPLISHED WHAT RABBI YOSEF DELLA REINA FAILED TO ACCOMPLISH, AND HE DID SO BY A METHOD THAT RABBI DELLA REINA DID NOT COMPREHEND. YOU, SEE, NOTHING REMAINS WITHIN THE JEW THAT CAN RESTORE HIM TO ADAM’S FIRST ESTATE OF PERFECTION, WHICH WAS PROMISED WITH THE FIRST TABLETS THAT MOSES BROUGHT DOWN. BUT THEY WERE BROKEN AND A WEAKER, TEMPORARY COVENANT REPLACED THEM.

SO, NOW, SOMETHING MUST BE ADDED TO US, JUST LIKE WHEN ELISHA ADDED MEAL TO THE POISONED STEW TO MAKE IT EDIBLE AGAIN. WE MUST HAVE THAT PERFECTION WHICH WAS LOST ADDED TO US.

WE LOST OUR CONNECTION TO BINAH, THE WORLD TO COME, AND TO THE YESOD OF ZE’IR ANPIN, OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS, AND TO THE SHEKINAH, THE LAND OF THE LIVING, AND THERE IS NOTHING INSIDE OF US, OR OUTSIDE OF US, OR ANY ACTIONS THAT WE CAN PERFORM, THAT WILL HEAL OUR WOUND.

THE NEFESH OF THE GLORIFIED JESUS CHRIST IS THE RESTORED SHEKINAH. SHE IS AVAILABLE TO YOU TODAY, AND DESIRES TO TAKE UP RESIDENCE IN THE JEW ONCE AGAIN.

THE YESOD OF THE GLORIFIED JESUS CHRIST IS “CHRIST IN YOU,” WHO SEEKS TO JOIN WITH HIS SHEKINAH IN YOU, THAT YOU MIGHT EXPERIENCE THE NEW, RIGHTEOUS SOUL AND THE MIRACLES OF THE SPIRITUAL SHABAT, EVEN A SHABAT THAT WILL NEVER END. THIS IS WHAT ISAIAH SPOKE ABOUT, SAYING:

Isa 45:17, But Israel shall be saved in the LORD with an everlasting

salvation: ye shall not be ashamed nor confounded world without end. KJV

GOD BLESS YOU AND ALL OF YOUR FRIENDS.

SINCERELY IN CHRIST,

SHEILA R. VITALE,
PASTOR, TEACHER & FOUNDER
CHRIST-CENTERED KABBALAH
LIVING EPISTLES MINISTRIES

Response To Gnostic - 1

PASTOR VITALE: Hello xxxxxx

It is very interesting to see the common roots of all spiritual philosophies. It is the same message, with different names assigned to the characters in the same play, which is the story of the descendants of the fallen Adam.

The commonality ends there, however, since both Old (Kabbalah) and New (Doctrine of Christ) Testaments declare the ascendancy of Messiah (Old Testament) and the Lord Jesus Christ (New Testament) over all other deities.

Ex 15:11, Who is like unto thee, O LORD, among the gods? who is like thee, glorious in holiness, fearful in praises, doing wonders?KJV

Ex 20:1, And God spake all these words, saying,

2, I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.

3, Thou shalt have no other gods before me. KJV

1 Tim 6:15, Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;

16 Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen. KJV

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XXXXXXXX: "when a man comes under the influence of YHVH, he is no longer subject to the dictates of the planets., i.e., the entities behind the physical globes. "

PASTOR VITALE: AMEN

XXXXXXXX: This reminds me of the Gnostic myth of Sophia, who goes after the light of the demiurge (dragon), thinking the light came from the Most High.

PASTOR VITALE: THIS IS THE ACCOUNT OF THE SEDUCTION OF THE FEMALE ASPECT OF ADAM

XXXXXXXX: She then falls to the astral and physical planes, persecuted by the dragon sons, the planetary rulers (kosmocrators).

PASTOR VITALE:  TRUE

XXXXXXXX: The essence of Gnostic teachings is to free ourselves from the tirany of the kosmocrators, which is not a simple job, because the self-centered mind

(dragon) in us is predominant here on earth, and that´s why there´s so much evil and suffering.

PASTOR VITALE:  TRUE

XXXXXXXX: But thank God that He sent Jesus Christ and all the other Avatars to teach us the way to freedom.

PASTOR VITALE:  NOT TRUE

Acts 4:10, Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole.

11 This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner.

12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved. KJV

SALVATION IS MORE THAN A KNOWLEDGE OF PHILOSOPHY, OR A METHOD OF OVERCOMING SELF-CENTEREDNESS. IT IS THE ACTUAL EXCHANGE OF OUR FALLEN NATURE FOR THE PERFECT, RIGHTEOUS NATURE OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST, AGAINST WHICH THERE IS NO LAW.

1 Tim 1:9, Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, KJV

SALVATION IS A PERSON, A SPIRITUAL MAN WHO TAKES UP RESIDENCE IN US AND JOINS HIS SPIRIT WITH OUR SPIRIT, AND BECOMES OUR NEW MAN (WHICH INCLUDES A NEW MIND).

2 Tim 2:10

10 Therefore I endure all things for the elect's sakes, that they may also obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory. KJV

Eph 4:24, And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness. KJV

2 Cor 5:17, Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new. KJV

Eph 4:24

24 And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness. KJV

1 Cor 2:16, For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ. KJV

1 Peter 4:1, Forasmuch then as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves likewise with the same mind: for he that hath suffered in the flesh hath ceased from sin; KJV

GOD BLESS YOU.
SINCERELY IN CHRIST,
SHEILA R. VITALE,
PASTOR, TEACHER & FOUNDER
CHRIST-CENTERED KABBALAH
LIVING EPISTLES MINISTRIES

XXXXXXXX: Amen.

Shalom

On Tue, 18 May 2004 07:36:12 -0700 (PDT), xxxxxxx wrote

Shalom Pastor Vitale: 

I'm a 29 year old Portuguese interested in Mysticism in general (Theosophy, Kabbalah, Gnosticism) and I was web-searching for topics related to Malkhut until I found your page, message 550, part 25, which was what I was looking for: to understand the creation of this  world, and how it is dependant of the other worlds. Modern Kabbalists, namely the Masters of Safed, Ysrael (www.kabbalaonline.org) don't talk of our world as being the pit of the "refuse" parts of the higher worlds, but I always believed, or even felt that this world was the refuse pit or the closest world to it. But it's wonderful to see how perfect is this "evil" world, or at least, how perfectly it is ruled, how mighty and merciful is God. 
Merciful He/She is for sure, I can say that based on my short- life experience, that the Merciful God rules over the accuser-god, or I wouldn't be here, today, talking to you. I have sinned so much, blasphemed so much against Him, tried to destroy this body that is His temple, that if Mercy wasn't mightier than Judgment I would be dead  long ago. May God grant Us peace and deliver us from evil. Amen.

PASTOR VITALE: hello xxxxxxx

Thank you for this email.

God bless you.

Sheila R. Vitale,
Pastor, Teacher & Founder
Christ-Centered Kabbalah
Living Epistles Ministries

Empty Space

-----Original Message-----
From: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2004  
To: Sheila R Vitale
Subject: ps

Biblical Sayings 

Is it really in the Bible; "Hell Hath No Fury Like A Woman's Scorn"  and if so, where?

No, this saying is not in the Bible, but the Bible does suggest that the 
female is emotional and wrathful. This suggestion, however, is referring to the soulish nature of mortal man (both physical men and physical women), not to physical women alone. Although physical women are more likely to have an emotional or wrathful nature than physical men, especially today, we see more and more physical men manifesting the emotional nature, and more and more women manifesting a rational mind.

The Scripture also tells us that when Christ Jesus becomes the mind and controlling factor of a person's life, i.e., a physical man or a physical woman, that person becomes the expression of Christ Jesus, who is male, which makes that person (physical man or physical woman) spiritually male. Full spiritual manhood (which is a condition of mind) for a physical woman dries up her sex life, however, because the physical man is the head of physical marriage by virtue of his physical body (even if the woman is wiser)
and homosexuality is forbidden.

Thank you for writing.

Sincerely in Christ,
Sheila R. Vitale,
Pastor, Teacher & Founder
Christ-Centered Kabbalah
Living Epistles Ministries

Jesse

It appears that “to sin with an explanation” is a conclusion that I drew from the meaning of the Hebrew word and its roots.

Strong says the word means “lean.” I concluded that “lean” can be interpreted to mean “without oil.” I further concluded that to be “without oil” (the anointing) – means to be in a fallen state, which is called “sin.”

I then looked up the word in Gesenius and found that it can be understood to mean “except.” I put “to be in sin” together with “except,” and concluded that, when the context of the verse supported it, the Hebrew word translated “also” could be translated, “to sin with an exception,” or “to sin with an explanation.”

You will find these kinds of conclusions being drawn as a matter of course in Kabbalah teachings. Such conclusions are shocking to the Carnal Mind, but make absolute sense to the Christ Mind. This is why believers who are still in their Carnal Mind should not read or listen to Kabbalah teachings: When their Carnal Mind cannot follow along with this kind of “Christ Reasoning,” they will conclude that it is a false teaching, or come to some other negative and destructive conclusion.

The bottom line is that the written word is a point of contact, or “jumping off point, from which the Lord can lead the seeker into any aspect of Truth that He desires to bring them to.

Love, Pastor Vitale

Pastor Vitale's response:

Jesse

“Name” is spirit. The Names “Jehovah” and “I AM” for example are Names of God, and God is not soul. He is spirit.

“Soul” is the vessel that the spirit inhabits.  Mortal mankind is all soul. We are created for be an house for the LORD. When the “house”  (the human) is “inhabited” (completed)  it becomes Adam, the Son of God.

I think I explained what you need to hear in the most recent LEM Message (with illustrations), although I couched this spiritual principle in terms other than what we are discussing here.

To put it simply, the spiritual essence of Jesus returned to and was dissolved in the undifferentiated “sea of consciousness” of Adam Kadmon, the creator.

This is a great mystery, but if you can hear it, this is it:

All potential  extant (revealed) consciousness, thought, personalities, etc. exist in the “void,” or spiritual sea, of Adam Kadmon’s unrevealed, undisclosed (the Zohar says “recondite”), undifferentiated  consciousness. 

Adam Kadmon, to accomplish the Ayn Sof’s purposes as He alone understands them, can, at His own Will and discretion, call into formation any of His potentials. In other words, today, the personality of Jesus Christ, is formed on the surface of the void of Adam Kadmon’s consciousness, like a fish (shark, whale) can suddenly appear close enough to shore for bathers to see. The shark or whale was, for all intents and purposes, dissolved in the sea, ie, was an invisible part of the sea, until it appeared to the bathers.

Today, Jesus Christ, a personality that other human beings can recognize and relate to, is the “garment” or “personality” or “Name” through which the whole of Adam Kadmon’s consciousness, both revealed and concealed, is made available to the dead soul, which was created to be a house for it.

Jesus is the door, or the wormhole, that connects our two worlds – hell and the infinite recondite glory of God. The beings who were formed on the other side of the Flood were all “called back” and dissolved into the void of Adam Kadmon’s recondite consciousness because that “formation” did not accurately reflect the nature of the Name that they represented (Seth, the Son of God).

This “sea of Adam Kadmon’s consciousness” which waits patiently behind the Name, Jesus,

1 Peter 3:20

20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited [patiently (longsuffering)] in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water. KJV

will shortly pour out upon fallen mankind through the “door” of Christ Jesus, the “footprint” in the earth of mortal humanity, of the Name, Jesus.  This event is depicted throughout the whole Book of Revelation, which is indeed, the Revelation of the Name, Jesus. The “sea” that exists on the other side of that “door” is about to break forth upon the earth of humanity in the form of judgment upon everything that does not accurately represent the Name, Jesus. These elements of soul, which is the vessel, not the rider, will either change to reflect the nature of Jesus, the rider, or be destroyed.

Rev 14:20

20 And the winepress was trodden without the city, and blood came out of the winepress, even unto the horse bridles, by the space of a thousand and six hundred furlongs. KJV

The Sons of God will judge their sin nature from outside of the Holy City, that is, their Carnal Minds must agree with Christ to condemn their own Carnal Minds. Then the Blood/Spirit of Christ will pour out of the horses (their humanity), up to the very border (bridles) of the Christ (rider) within them. And the horses themselves (mortal humanity)will be immersed in the Blood/Spirit of the Rider, who has just “come into His house”  (mortal humanity).

It is the Will of God that mortal humanity, the vessel that He will inhabit (the horse that He will ride), should be raised up to a place of “oneness” with Him (Yechida) which will preserve us, His house, for the life of the ages.

We are a living soul that died when we, the horse, divested itself of (threw off/unseated) its “Rider,”  our only source of life and safety (salvation). But we shall live again, when our Lord (Rider) reclaims us and lives through us again, which is the purpose for which we were created.

Hos 6:2

2 After two days will he revive us: in the third day he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight.

KJV 

1 Peter 2:5 

5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ. KJV

Sincerely in Christ,

Sheila R. Vitale,

Pastor, Teacher & Founder

Christ-Centered Kabbalah

1 Kings 8:27-29

27 But will God indeed dwell on the earth? behold, the heaven and heaven of heavens cannot contain thee; how much less this house that I have builded ?

28 Yet have thou respect unto the prayer of thy servant, and to his supplication, O LORD my God, to hearken unto the cry and to the prayer, which thy servant prayeth before thee to day:

29 That thine eyes may be open toward this house night and day, even toward the place of which thou hast said, My name shall be there: that thou mayest hearken unto the prayer which thy servant shall make toward this place.

KJV

Q&A: Did Moses die?

Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 6:40 PM

Rita

This is an interesting question:

Joshua 1:2

2Moses my servant is dead; now therefore arise, go over this Jordan, thou, and all this people, unto the land which I do give to them, even to the children of Israel.

KJV

There are two answers to this question, Rita, depending on which spiritual world you live in.

Can you believe that what Jehovah meant when he told Joshua that Moses was dead, is that, as far as Joshua and the Hebrew children and the whole world of Asiyah are concerned , Moses was dead because he was no longer there; he would not return to Asiyah in their physical lifetimes, and when he did return to Asiyah, it would not be in the form that he was in when they knew him?

If you can believe that, then you live in Atzilut, and the answer to your question is ”no, Moses did not die." He ascended to Beriah, from where he reincarnated in Jesus of Nazareth. After that, he ascended to Atzilut with the glorified Jesus, from where he is reincarnating today as one of the foundational souls of Christ Jesus, the other foundational souls being Enoch/Michael, Elijah and Jesus of Nazareth.

If you can’t believe that, then you live in Asiyah, and the answer to your question is “yes, Moses died,” the proof being that he was never seen or heard from again – until, that is, he appeared on the mount of transfiguration with Jesus.

Good question!

Love, Pastor Vitale.

Question on A Look At Kabbalah Part 3

Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 7:46 PM

Subject: Questions from meeting

Pastor Vitale

I read the message "A Look At Kabbalah" 531.3 today. The following are questions from the meeting:

1. We know that the Doctrine Of Christ teaches that Leviathan is supposed to be the father and Satan is supposed to be the mother. But what happened to make Satan the father and Leviathan the mother?

This question came from the following comment in the message.

QUOTE FROM THE MESSAGE:

“COMMENT: Who is the mother and father on Satan's side?

COMMENT: PASTOR VITALE: Satan is the father, and Leviathan is the mother.”

PASTOR VITALE’S RESPONSE:

Leviathan is the Father and Satan the mother. I had this wrong at the time that I preached this message, because, at the time, I saw Satan as more powerful than, and as the warhead behind Leviathan.

Today I understand that Satan is the female, but she is Jezebel, who has ascended above her husband and taken the authoritative role.

2. How did this process take place? Or how did Leviathan allow this to happen?

PASTOR VITALE’S RESPONSE:

When Adam fell under the dominion of the Serpent, the whole creation turned upside down.

QUOTE FROM THE MESSAGE:

“PASTOR VITALE: Of whom? Cain [inaudible] PASTOR VITALE: That's right, but who are they the mother and father of?

COMMENT: The Fiery Serpent.

PASTOR VITALE: Yes, the Fiery Serpent”

PASTOR VITALE’S RESPONSE:

The fiery serpent is Cain, the offspring of the seed of the snake which was imparted to the Woman when she rejected Elohim’s instructions, and believed the Snake.

At the time that I preached this message, I thought that Cain and Abel were the fiery serpent. I thought that when Abel is underneath Cain, Abel is so overcome that the two are indistinguishable, and collectively known as “the fiery serpent.” This is why I said that Satan and Leviathan are the mother and father of the “whole” fiery serpent, i.e., both Cain and Abel.

Today, I know that this is not true. Abel continues to be distinguishable from Cain, even in captivity, where we see him described in the Book of Revelation as “another beast,” who has two horns and speaks like a dragon:

Rev 13:11

11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.

KJV

PASTOR VITALE’S RESPONSE:

Now, brethren, common sense tells us that lambs do not have horns, right? So the correct translation is:

11, And I saw [Abel] rising from under [Cain’s] earth by the compound power (two horns) [of Satan and Leviathan], and he appeared to be [Abel], the lamb [of God], but he spoke as though he were [Cain], the dragon, [the child of the Snake]. (Alternate Translation Bible) ATB

PASTOR VITALE’S RESPONSE:

The Lord Jesus, marries Abel while he is still captive under Cain’s ground, which awakens Abel from the sleep of death. The awakened Abel receives the “title,” of “Christ” (the anointed one), which indicates that Abel has been liberated “by faith,” and will begin, once again, to reveal the nature of God.

Wherefore, it is appropriate to say, “Abel, the Christ,” if we so desire. This understanding makes “the awakened Abel” and “Christ” interchangeable.

Abel is the lamb, and retains his identity as a lamb, even when he is completely overcome by Cain; that is, Abel is the lamb whether he is speaking the words of God, or the words of Cain.

Abel in captivity (still under Cain’s ground) has the righteousness of Christ imputed to him, i.e., the righteousness of faith, but is not righteous in and of himself.

This is why John identified Abel within Jesus as the “Lamb of God,” to distinguish him from the lost lambs of the other Judeans (Pharisees, etc) who were under the control of Cain, Satan and Leviathan.

Abel is “the Lamb of God” only after he ascends above Cain, and mounts her.

Jesus of Nazareth was not the Lamb of God. Abel within Jesus was the Lamb of God.

This understanding of the lamb is set forth in CCK message # 630, The Paschal Lamb, and confirmed by the alternate translation of Zechariah 9:9, as discussed in Part 2 of that message.

3. What happens to the energy of a member in the family who dies?

Does that energy fall upon family members?

PASTOR VITALE’S RESPONSE:

Energy exists in two forms: spirit and soul. Those who have a soul from God, have two souls: mortal and immortal. That which belongs to God, the immortal soul and spirit, returns to God. That which belongs to the earth, the mortal soul, returns to its source, the group soul of the family that spawned it.

And if the energy is negative can we translate that energy from negative to positive energy?

PASTOR VITALE’S RESPONSE:

Only by sacrificing Satan, Leviathan and Cain, the source of the negative energy, to the Lord Jesus.

Thanks

Jesse